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May 16, 2017 10:48:16   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Gene51 wrote:


This is from before I leave the studio to when I send stuff out. A more granular description covers all of the steps in editing, but I don't think that was what you were looking for.


You should write a photography book.

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May 16, 2017 10:49:19   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
brucewells wrote:
Many of the problems I see posted here indicate the absence of a good workflow. Devising a workflow is not easy. It takes a lot of thought and planning. So much so, I suggest that the workflow be written down and studied for steps that might cause issues.

We all use some sort of workflow, whether we are aware of it or not, but I'm referring to a formal workflow that is followed for each image captured. What are your thoughts?

I'll post a link to a very good article on the subject.

Gene51 gave an excellent description of an organized workflow. Whether dealing with small or large numbers of images, and whether they are for yourself or for clients, there are many similarities in how to handle their capture and processing.

It is important to look at each photo with an eye toward what kind of adjustments are appropriate, and even that can be done in a methodical manner. I often skip some of the offered editing tools in LR because they are more global, and a particular image may need some more localized work. Also it is important to know which tools in LR and PS will perform the needed function in the way you want. These programs have some overlapping functions, but do not perform them in exactly the same way. This is where the workflow details will be dictated by the image, but the overall process can definitely benefit from being organized!

The main thing is to have a system that works for you.

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May 16, 2017 13:45:57   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
jerryc41 wrote:
You should write a photography book.


Working on it, actually. I am collecting my lesson plans, targeted instructional aids and other educational collateral to put something more or less cohesive. A labor of love, for sure.

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May 16, 2017 13:46:32   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
SusanFromVermont wrote:
Gene51 gave an excellent description of an organized workflow. Whether dealing with small or large numbers of images, and whether they are for yourself or for clients, there are many similarities in how to handle their capture and processing.

It is important to look at each photo with an eye toward what kind of adjustments are appropriate, and even that can be done in a methodical manner. I often skip some of the offered editing tools in LR because they are more global, and a particular image may need some more localized work. Also it is important to know which tools in LR and PS will perform the needed function in the way you want. These programs have some overlapping functions, but do not perform them in exactly the same way. This is where the workflow details will be dictated by the image, but the overall process can definitely benefit from being organized!

The main thing is to have a system that works for you.
Gene51 gave an excellent description of an organiz... (show quote)


Thank you, Susan.

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May 16, 2017 13:55:23   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
brucewells wrote:
Thanks for sharing, Gene.

I want a situation where the same things are done to all my images, and it's easy to overlook something if there isn't a defined sequence used for each at PP. I'm quite regimented about it. We seldom see this topic discussed and it was my hopes that some of the newer members might gain from the discussion. Lots of good info here.

Thanks again.


I'd be lost without it. Another important but not often discussed benefit is what happens if you (or the computer) screws up? With a well-thought out workflow you can get back to where you were pretty quickly, at least through the raw review and edit stages.

I adopted this workflow in 2006 when I started shooting raw. Prior to that I had a very disorganized worflow, lots of duplication, lost images because of duplicate naming, etc. LR has helped considerably, more than Bridge could ever do. It's been adjusted as I moved through Raw Shooter, Bibble Pro, Capture One, Adobe Camera Raw, Raw Therapee, Lightroom DXO and now as I add On1Raw to the mix. I still use DXO alongside LR as it can function as a plugin and does a better job at denoising and sharpening high ISO images than anything I've tried so far. It also does cleaner shadows.

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May 16, 2017 14:19:01   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
Gene51 wrote:
I'd be lost without it. Another important but not often discussed benefit is what happens if you (or the computer) screws up? With a well-thought out workflow you can get back to where you were pretty quickly, at least through the raw review and edit stages.

I adopted this workflow in 2006 when I started shooting raw. Prior to that I had a very disorganized worflow, lots of duplication, lost images because of duplicate naming, etc. LR has helped considerably, more than Bridge could ever do. It's been adjusted as I moved through Raw Shooter, Bibble Pro, Capture One, Adobe Camera Raw, Raw Therapee, Lightroom DXO and now as I add On1Raw to the mix. I still use DXO alongside LR as it can function as a plugin and does a better job at denoising and sharpening high ISO images than anything I've tried so far. It also does cleaner shadows.
I'd be lost without it. Another important but not ... (show quote)

My workflow has also undergone changes since I started using LR and PS. Not as complex as yours, since I do not use all those other programs, but it took some work to clean it up from duplications, lost images, and all those .xmp side cars littering up my folders! Being organized is a HUGE help. And I have definitely done my share of screwing up, and the computer has, too...

Gene, You have a wealth of information and luckily for us, you are glad to share. Writing a photography book is not an easy task, but one way to put your knowledge into a cohesive instructive format from which others can learn. I would definitely want to read it! In fact, if you need a proof-reader, let me know.

Susan

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May 16, 2017 15:38:27   #
Natalie Knott Loc: Fort Bragg, CA
 
Thank you all for the excellent advice, sharing and links. It is very helpful.

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May 17, 2017 07:19:38   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Gene51 wrote:
Working on it, actually. I am collecting my lesson plans, targeted instructional aids and other educational collateral to put something more or less cohesive. A labor of love, for sure.



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May 17, 2017 09:25:32   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
SusanFromVermont wrote:
My workflow has also undergone changes since I started using LR and PS. Not as complex as yours, since I do not use all those other programs, but it took some work to clean it up from duplications, lost images, and all those .xmp side cars littering up my folders! Being organized is a HUGE help. And I have definitely done my share of screwing up, and the computer has, too...

Gene, You have a wealth of information and luckily for us, you are glad to share. Writing a photography book is not an easy task, but one way to put your knowledge into a cohesive instructive format from which others can learn. I would definitely want to read it! In fact, if you need a proof-reader, let me know.

Susan
My workflow has also undergone changes since I sta... (show quote)


Cool!

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May 17, 2017 16:27:09   #
kelso007 Loc: Circle Pines Minnesota
 
Bob! That was quite the response... I fell asleep. But, it was worthy.

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May 18, 2017 01:58:53   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
I don't have a single workflow, but many different workflows, and I am always experimenting with new approaches to workflow. The way I see it, if you go about as if working on an assembly line, the overall output will look like it came off an assembly line - a lot of sameness, with a stifled range of style and creativity. That's certainly not what I want out of photography.

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May 18, 2017 05:29:46   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
My workflow. It works for me, but I don't expect it will work for everyone. But you can always extract elements from it and insert them into your workflow.

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/user-page?upnum=1584

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May 18, 2017 05:35:44   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
And here is a sample one using On1 Raw that I am looking at:

https://www.on1.com/blog/portrait-workflow-series-culling/?utm_campaign=Engage_NoProfile-PortSeries_5-2017&utm_source=RAW_Own&utm_medium=email&v=plus

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May 18, 2017 08:31:03   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
My workflow. It works for me, but I don't expect it will work for everyone. But you can always extract elements from it and insert them into your workflow.

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/user-page?upnum=1584


Thanks. I added that to my collection.

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May 18, 2017 08:32:30   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 


Thanks for the link, but this is why I don't do portraits.

Trees and mountains don't have eyes and lips and hair and ...

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