Quantus5 wrote:
Your response doesn't take into account that dedicated camera ILC technology will also improve, which will also take advantage of superior technology.
Dedicated ILC cameras will always have a size advantage going for them. Larger sensors and larger lenses (high quality optics). As sensor technology improves it improves for both -- but the larger sensor using the same technology level will always take better photos.
Now are smart phones pictures good enough for casual use and do they take fairly good pictures? I would say yes. I would rather be able to take a decent photo than not take a higher quality shot, because I didn't have one of my dedicated ILC cameras with me.
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If you read my post you will see that I did state that professionals will have even better equipment by then.
You know what I like to do sometimes? With my DSLR and preferably a long lens for extra impact, walk into a room with the camera pressed against my ear, carrying on a normal conversation. Then to the curious onlookers I say "what, you've never seen a camera with a built in phone"?
I'll have to try that some time! :)
markjay wrote:
cell phones may be improving - but they will never replicate even any low end dlsr or mirrorless.
Look at the size of the lens on a cell phone. The sensor behind the lens is about the same size as the lens. It is ridiculously small. It is not a question of the number of megapixels. The physical size of the lens is critical. It is why a medium format of lower mp's is still better than a FF with more mp's.
There is physically no room for a camera to improve the size of the sensor in any meaningful way - at least not for a long time.
So cell phones are convenient - and they are improving - but they will never replace a large sensor camera.
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I always find it interesting when commenters use words like "absolutely" or "Never" in their conversations. Technology is an amazing science that has just about proved every absolute wrong. To say that a cell phone will "NEVER" be able to take images as well as a DSLR is just absurd. I mean no disrespect, but think back to the comments that were made by all the film photographers when the first digital Single Lens Reflex camera was introduced. "It will "NEVER" replace film. Well, guess what, it has for all intents and purposes. You can go down the list of the "NEVER" complexes. Technology always finds a way to invent or improve current products.
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Allen D S wrote:
You know what I like to do sometimes? With my DSLR and preferably a long lens for extra impact, walk into a room with the camera pressed against my ear, carrying on a normal conversation. Then to the curious onlookers I say "what, you've never seen a camera with a built in phone"?
Classic....noted, remembered and soon to be practiced..
This phenomenon has nothing to do with camera phones improving or with quality at all. It has to do with convenience for the vast majority of people for whom photography means nothing other than recording people, places, and things in the most casual and convenient way possible. Most camera phone users will never make a print and will just look at the picture on their phone or send it to another's phone. Photography as an art form or even as a hobby is the farthest thing from their minds.
Hey John,
Watching a movie on television will NEVER be the same as watching it on a big screen in a theater.
Until and unless cell phones start using full sized sensors, the images on those tiny sensors will NEVER be the same as those taken with a DSLR.
OK ?
They take pics, post on face book or twitter,and that's the end of it.
So far as improved technology is concerned, how would we get all those spectacular photos back from our ships all over the solar system? Film just had no placew there, but its still hard to get the same colors and beauty as an ektachrome transparency. Someday it will happen, til then I hope they make enough for me to get my old film slrs out and clean em up. I wonder when someone will figure out that duplicating the eyeball as a camera format offers the ideal way to record an image. Its a thought that has fascinated me for a very long time.
markjay wrote:
Hey John,
Watching a movie on television will NEVER be the same as watching it on a big screen in a theater.
Until and unless cell phones start using full sized sensors, the images on those tiny sensors will NEVER be the same as those taken with a DSLR.
OK ?
Ever sit three feet from a 60" 4K monitor?
If watching 4K program material, it is BETTER than being in the theater. Some smartphones already record 4K.
"No one will ever need more than 640K of memory." --- Bill Gates
"Apple will never sell more than a million iPhones." --- Steve Ballmer
Never say never. Whatever you say won't, or can't happen, probably WILL happen. When I can watch live TV in the back seat of my car, on my phone, as I did the other day, it's hard to believe ANY of the "Star Trek stuff" is impossible.
chazz4623 wrote:
So far as improved technology is concerned, how would we get all those spectacular photos back from our ships all over the solar system? Film just had no placew there, but its still hard to get the same colors and beauty as an ektachrome transparency. Someday it will happen, til then I hope they make enough for me to get my old film slrs out and clean em up. I wonder when someone will figure out that duplicating the eyeball as a camera format offers the ideal way to record an image. Its a thought that has fascinated me for a very long time.
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All we need is about 330 16-bit 8K frames per second... in stereo/3D.
No, I'm sorry.
No television, whether 3 feet away or otherwise, will ever replicate the viewing experience of being in a theater.
Yeah, I keep my phone on vibrate too.
markjay wrote:
No, I'm sorry.
No television, whether 3 feet away or otherwise, will ever replicate the viewing experience of being in a theater.
But it is much better. No distractions. Cheap. Full bar, if you want it. Pause for bathroom and snack breaks. Rewind and review segments you didn't hear. Play with your cat while watching. Watch in bed...
If you prefer to watch a tv 3 feet from your face - then I respect your views and desire to do so.
If you think it is better than a large theater screen, of course you re entitled to your views again.
However, I dont believe most people would agree with this thesis.
As they say .... different strokes for different folks. !!
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