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Jul 14, 2013 00:20:51   #
TchrBill Loc: Houston, TX
 
romanticf16 wrote:
Ah, but your is the more expensive VR version. I'd like to see what his does on a good solid tripod. I think he is just not holding it steady enough?

Exactly, the VR version was not the point of the original post. That's like saying my Kia is a piece of crap and someone saying, "Well, my BMW is great." I bought the non-VR version and a good tripod for less than the VR version. I am not saying I didn't want the VR version but I couldn't justify the additional cost because I wanted a tripod also. I got some decent pictures with it handhead but, they were better with the tripod at the long end.

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Jul 14, 2013 00:30:14   #
Mikeazz Loc: I live in Northport, NY
 
I recently purchased the 70-300 VR from Adorama that was refurbished by Nikon. It's super sharp and compares to my friend's 70-200 VR F/4. In fact, it is one of the main lenses that Bryan Peterson uses, and mentions in his books and his online instructional videos. If you are familiar with Bryan's work, you know his shots are tack sharp. He definitely wouldn't be using it if it wasn't.

You might have just gotten a poor specimen. I just recently had my brand new 28-300 Nikon VR in for a check up because of focusing problems, and they had to replace the VR motor. Now it works fine, but the 70-300 is sharper. Call Nikon and ask the reps for their suggestions. If it's new, or under warranty, I think it would be worth it for them to check it out.

Is your lens F/4.5-5.6? Does it have VR? Was it a Grey Market Lens?

Let us know what happens.
PS I was at a photo conference and the Nikon Representatives said the 70-300, was very sharp and probably the best bargain out there!Many of them have use the lens.

Check out Adorama's price for the refurbished VR version of the 70-300 lens. Good Luck

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Jul 14, 2013 01:29:55   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
i think that it would be worth gambling $32.00 once to get a better copy. the other route would be a 1.4 teleconverter for the 70-210mm lens.

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Jul 14, 2013 12:14:16   #
Ol' Frank Loc: Orlando,
 
bull drink water wrote:
i think that it would be worth gambling $32.00 once to get a better copy. the other route would be a 1.4 teleconverter for the 70-210mm lens.


I use a 1.4 teleconverter on my 70-300 kit lens on occasion and it works great. That set up with my D90 and battery pack gets pretty heavy so I have to set the shutter speed up to at least 750 so the shakes don't show so much.

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Jul 15, 2013 00:16:39   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
OddJobber wrote:
Thanks for all the input, guys. Gobuster, good photo but... as already mentioned the IF-ED VR version is supposed to be very good, and I'd be happy with results like yours. I only see a little CA along the edge of the rear legs. And thanks to fstop22 for the price tip on refurb. I don't mind refurb or gray market or even used if the glass is good. The "sharpness issues at the higher zoom ranges" is my real concern. I'm already covered from about 7mm (yes, 7!) to 200mm. I want to be able to reach out and count nose hairs at 100 feet. :) So I'm not really tied to the 70-300. I'm thinking also about the (supposed to be fab) Big Sigma, or a few others. This is just a case where cheap was not good.
Thanks for all the input, guys. Gobuster, good ph... (show quote)

I find it hard to beleive , i have the 70-300VR11and it is as good as all the write up' say it is it's tack sharp , and thom hogan say's its much better than it should be for the price . He even goes on to say the optics are comparable to the $1600 nikon in the same range . The only thing is its not built as strong as the one that cost much more , or water and dust resisent . But if you dont bang it around its a great lens . Mine does not creep it stays where you set it . You must have got one made on friday. Or are you using it set on action when you should be Using normal . And turnit off when using a tripod . Like isay mine is tack sharp .

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Jul 15, 2013 11:05:34   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
Bram boy wrote:
I find it hard to beleive , i have the 70-300VR11and it is as good as all the write up' say it is it's tack sharp , and thom hogan say's its much better than it should be for the price . He even goes on to say the optics are comparable to the $1600 nikon in the same range . The only thing is its not built as strong as the one that cost much more , or water and dust resisent . But if you dont bang it around its a great lens . Mine does not creep it stays where you set it . You must have got one made on friday. Or are you using it set on action when you should be Using normal . And turnit off when using a tripod . Like isay mine is tack sharp .
I find it hard to beleive , i have the 70-300VR11a... (show quote)

He didn't have the VR model.

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Jul 17, 2013 20:59:23   #
Bozsik Loc: Orangevale, California
 
OddJobber wrote:
I recently purchased a Nikon AF Nikkor70-210mm 1:4-5.6 lens from a fellow Hog and I'm loving it. Heavy duty metal lens. Not great in low light, some CA at longer lengths, and my neutered D3100 won't auto focus, but I can live with all that. And that is NOT the lens I'm going to gripe about.

I still wanted a little more reach, so I looked into the Nikon AF Nikkor 70-300mm 1:4-5.6 G. I assumed the optics would be very similar, and I could tolerate the mostly plastic build to keep cost down. Ken Rockwell gives it a fairly good review as "the next step above your 55-200mm kit lens", and says it's a good lens for a low price.

Let me say at this point that it's possible I got the bad apple in the bushel. If this is the case, I don't want to sort through a bunch of lenses (at $32 round trip shipping each) looking for the good one. I have other Nikon lenses made in China and Thailand that outperform the 70-300, so I don't blame the Chinese either.

In brief, I cannot get sharp (enough) focus at any length. My kit lenses do better. With no vibration reduction, the light weight of this lens works against it. (But the VR version is 3 times the cost.) I cannot recommend it for hand-held. It's inefficient T factor (light transmission) requires wide settings along with high ISO's and slow shutter. Lens creep is significant, especially for a twist zoom. In one case, I got it dialed in, then it zoomed itself in from 135 to 100mm before I got the shot off. My push-pull 70-200 does better. Chromatic abberation (blue fringing) is terrible at anything longer than 200mm. My "entry level" D3100 needs good glass out front, and this one is not it. :(

My only disappointment out of 6 Nikon lenses. Cheap is not always a good thing. I'll go back to saving up my nickels for the $1K real deal. :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
I recently purchased a Nikon AF Nikkor70-210mm 1:4... (show quote)


Had mine for about 3 months, then dumped it. It just depends what you want as sharpness in a lens. It didn't make my cut either.

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Apr 17, 2017 13:31:50   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
ralphfr wrote:
Just to reiterate the focus of the OP's point, the correct lens this thread is about is the inexpensive G version. All plastic, NO VR.... This is making my head spin!!!

Please disregard. After my head stopped spinning I realized the thickness of the dust on this thread. So Sorry! Please delete!


...and this thread is 4 years old....

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Apr 17, 2017 13:51:22   #
ralphfr Loc: Long Island, NY
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
...and this thread is 4 years old....


Sorry. I beat you to it!!!

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Apr 17, 2017 16:22:44   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
I just recently bought this lens and have to agree, haven't got any sharp pics at 300mm with it. I've tried autofocusing with both live view and with the viewfinder. My Nikkor 55-300 AFS-VR performs better on a DX or even vignetting on an FX camera. This lens is very heavy as well, compared to the 55-300mm. The problem with the 70-300 seems to be back focusing. I will try to see if I can compensate for it by focusing a little in front of the subject and raising my f stop to get a better depth of field. Might also try to fine tune the lens on the D7000, but don't have too much hope for that correcting the problem. Maybe the problem is that the 70-300mm lenses on ebay, etc., are there because they don't achieve sharp focus. Attached is a pic of a fairly large robin at about 40 ft. Pretty soft throughout. The best of about 20 pics I took.


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Apr 17, 2017 16:52:00   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
Bobspez wrote:
I just recently bought this lens and have to agree, haven't got any sharp pics at 300mm with it. I've tried autofocusing with both live view and with the viewfinder. My Nikkor 55-300 AFS-VR performs better on a DX or even vignetting on an FX camera. This lens is very heavy as well, compared to the 55-300mm. The problem with the 70-300 seems to be back focusing. I will try to see if I can compensate for it by focusing a little in front of the subject and raising my f stop to get a better depth of field. Might also try to fine tune the lens on the D7000, but don't have too much hope for that correcting the problem. Maybe the problem is that the 70-300mm lenses on ebay, etc., are there because they don't achieve sharp focus. Attached is a pic of a fairly large robin at about 40 ft. Pretty soft throughout. The best of about 20 pics I took.
I just recently bought this lens and have to agree... (show quote)


Were you focusing on the birds eye and what focus mode did you use? Auto focus fine tune may help you if it is front focusing. I have this lens along with many other high quality lenses and for me I find this lens to have great IQ. The attached photo was taken with this lens.


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Apr 17, 2017 17:09:11   #
redhogbill Loc: antelope, calif
 
OddJobber wrote:
Craigslist. I'd rather meet someone in a dark alley far from home to unload this one.




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Apr 17, 2017 20:41:41   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
At 40 ft. the auto focus box is about the size of the bird's whole head, so don't know how to select just the eye. I'm not sure if autofocus wrap should be on or off, and whether it's better to use 11 or 39 points. It seems like both single servo and continuous are both enabled on the D7000. Not sure if live view or the viewfinder does a better auto focus. There's also a length selector in coninuous from long to short to off. Not sure which is the best settings on the D7000 for birds at a distance. I may try this lens with the Nikon1 J1 for birds as the CX crop factor puts a larger target in the live view. Attached is a bird half the size of the robin at the same distance, taken with the 55-300mm lens and the J1. It seems sharper in every respect. Not sure if it's the camera or the lens or both that made the difference. Maybe I'll have to shoot at some targets with both lenses and both cameras at about 50 ft. to get a definitive answer.

Brucej67 wrote:
Were you focusing on the birds eye and what focus mode did you use? Auto focus fine tune may help you if it is front focusing. I have this lens along with many other high quality lenses and for me I find this lens to have great IQ. The attached photo was taken with this lens.


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Apr 19, 2017 15:39:46   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
After several hours of testing and reading I found out a few things about this lens. First, I set my D7000 to single point autofocus, face mode, which is the smallest AF target available. Second, I found out that in Live View the D7000 uses Contrast detection AF, and in viewfinder mode the D7000 uses phase detection AF. After reading quite a few posts on dpreview on D7000 AF, the consensus was that Contrast detection is more accurate than phase detection AF, although phase detection is significantly faster. Third, after shooting a few dozen test shots at 300mm with both modes, I found the sharpness varied considerably in both modes, probably due to my not holding the camera steady enough. However on a number of targets, the sharpest pics were always shot in Live View using contrast detection AF. Attached is a best of the bunch, out of the camera jpg of a 4" tall figurine (small bird sized) shot at about 40 to 50 ft, with the 70-300mm lens at 300mm, using Live view (contrast detection AF). This pic was a bit sharper than the 55-300mm lens taken with the same settings.

f5.6, 1/200 sec, handheld, iso-100, 300mm.
f5.6, 1/200 sec, handheld, iso-100, 300mm....
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