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Apr 12, 2017 14:38:47   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
burkphoto wrote:
If you are referring to a screen on the back of the camera, that is correct. They're all marginal in daylight. But if you mean a true electronic viewfinder that you hold up to your eye to see, most of the newer ones are good. Newer Panasonic, Olympus, Sony, and Fujifilm cameras all have excellent EVFs.


That is no longer true. The LCD on my Panasonic GM5 is surprisingly good in bright daylight. It has caused me to change my earlier opinion, which agreed with you. More and more often I compose with it's LCD.

The GM5 has a reasonable EVF also, but I find myself using it less and less. In part because the LCD is a touch screen so I want to look at it anyway.

There is a slight downside. One of the ways they improved it is with strong polarization. Thus if you wear polarized sunglasses when you turn the camera to portrait mode the LCD goes black.

DSLR makers haven't all caught onto using cell phone technology LCDs.

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Apr 12, 2017 16:27:55   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
Dale40203 wrote:
How well do EVF do in bright sunlight for users with glasses? Does the gap caused by the glasses allow light to overpower the EVF, especially with sunlight coming from over the shoulder?


My Sony a6300 has a very convenient diopter adjustment so I shoot without my glasses. It is a little nuisance because I have to put them back on to see the buttons. My a6000 and my Nikon D7200 also had those (The Nikon did not have EVF, but still needed to adjust.

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Apr 12, 2017 17:06:56   #
ebercovici
 
I have a Sony AR7ii. Bright sunlight is annoying when shooting into the sun with any camera. I have a large eyecup that essentially solves the problem. That accessory is easy to attach, inexpensive, and readily avaliable online.

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Apr 12, 2017 23:04:42   #
royb_36-cox.net Loc: Phoenix
 
Dale40203 wrote:
How well do EVF do in bright sunlight for users with glasses? Does the gap caused by the glasses allow light to overpower the EVF, especially with sunlight coming from over the shoulder?


I have used EVF's for years on my Non DSLR cameras and my camcorders. While some are better than others and the information from fellow Hog's was excellent, the bottom line for me is that I haven't found an EVF that wasn't much better than using the LCD screen they all had when outside during the day.

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Apr 13, 2017 08:45:00   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
alliebess wrote:
I am extremely nearsighted so must wear my glasses and I've had no problem with the EVF in bright sunlight. I've used my old digital Kodaks and now work with Nikons and no problems so far.


Are there Nikon cameras with EVFs?

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Apr 13, 2017 10:48:01   #
HarryBinNC Loc: Blue Ridge Mtns, No.Carolina, USA
 
Dale40203 wrote:
How well do EVF do in bright sunlight for users with glasses? Does the gap caused by the glasses allow light to overpower the EVF, especially with sunlight coming from over the shoulder?


I have several years of experience with modern EVFs - Fuji Xt1 & 2 along with a Panasonic GX7 - they are all more than fine with glasses - I greatly prefer them to DSLR optical finders - I love the WYSIWYG nature (What You See Is What You Get) of the EVFs and the ability to see in the dark, especially if you are trying to do manual focus! I also love having all of the shooting info I want to see in the EVF, including a live histogram (and a depth of field scale with the Fujis). Of course, I have earlier cameras that have EVFs that are not so hot - that also goes with earlier DSLRs, especially with crop sensor cameras with their little, dim "tunnel vision" optical viewfinders.
Those early crappy viewfinders are the main reason for my ultimately going to "Full Frame" DSLRs - I could finally actually do a decent job of manual focus (as long as the light was good)!

HarryB

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Apr 13, 2017 10:56:25   #
HarryBinNC Loc: Blue Ridge Mtns, No.Carolina, USA
 
Dale40203 wrote:
The adjustable Diopter works for me on every camera I have tried including the A6500. It's just the disruptive nature of removing glasses in order to take a picture and replacing them in order to see normally. If all I were doing was taking pictures through the view finder that would be fine. But usually I'm walking about "viewing" the surroundings which requires glasses to be worn.


I have pretty strong glasses (bifocals) with a lot of correction and I have not had any camera with an adjustable diopter whether EVF or OVF that didn't have enough range to allow me to keep my glasses on. Of course, YMMV applies.

Harry B

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Apr 13, 2017 11:05:33   #
HarryBinNC Loc: Blue Ridge Mtns, No.Carolina, USA
 
MikeMcK wrote:
I have tried point and shoot cameras with electronic view finders and they drive me nuts. Don't like them.


Most point and shoot cameras have EVFs that are very inferior when compared to modern interchangeable lens or high end fixed lens cameras. The same goes for point and shoot cameras with optical finders.

HarryB

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Apr 13, 2017 18:31:12   #
NEPhoto
 
HarryBinNC wrote:
I have several years of experience with modern EVFs - Fuji Xt1 & 2 along with a Panasonic GX7 - they are all more than fine with glasses - I greatly prefer them to DSLR optical finders - I love the WYSIWYG nature (What You See Is What You Get) of the EVFs and the ability to see in the dark, especially if you are trying to do manual focus! I also love having all of the shooting info I want to see in the EVF, including a live histogram (and a depth of field scale with the Fujis). Of course, I have earlier cameras that have EVFs that are not so hot - that also goes with earlier DSLRs, especially with crop sensor cameras with their little, dim "tunnel vision" optical viewfinders.
Those early crappy viewfinders are the main reason for my ultimately going to "Full Frame" DSLRs - I could finally actually do a decent job of manual focus (as long as the light was good)!

HarryB
I have several years of experience with modern EVF... (show quote)


I assume you meant "mirrorless full frame", not "DSLR"

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Apr 13, 2017 20:13:26   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
No... he meant EXACTLY what he said:

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Those early crappy viewfinders are the main reason for my ultimately going to "Full Frame" DSLRs - I could finally actually do a decent job of manual focus (as long as the light was good)!


The section in bold applies to DSLRs... NOT mirrorless full frame cameras which by definition, have EVFs and therefore are not applicable in this sense.

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