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Apr 5, 2017 10:15:39   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
BlackRipleyDog wrote:
The camera transitions seamlessly from the external to the internal with no interruption. Also it comes in handy if doing a long elapsed-time sequence.


I thought with a grip everything was internal anyways...it's just 2 batteries in series rather than one in a single unit. Anyways, I don't have an external battery pack for my camera. I've also never tried time lapse...I don't think my a77 is capable and I don't really want to buy a separate intervolometer (or whatever it's called).

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Apr 5, 2017 10:21:51   #
BlackRipleyDog
 
The primary reason to employ a grip and a second battery is to have the endurance of a model like a D4 which will deliver at least 1200 frames on a fresh battery vs 500 to 600 on a single EL-15 out of say, a D800. Plus the grip supports a marginally higher frame rate. So unless you have solid performance or ergonomic needs, leave the grip at home. Your wife or girlfriend (maybe both) will still respect you at the end of the day.

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Apr 5, 2017 10:30:27   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
Marionsho wrote:
My "Canon" bat. grip (later found out it's a fake!) crapped out on my 7D so I've learned that you are totally correct. So much lighter.
And the women leave you alone. The battery grip will imply that you know what you're doing.
Marion


And WHY would I want the women to leave me alone? I'm attaching my previously unused battery grip today! >Alan

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Apr 5, 2017 10:31:29   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
BlackRipleyDog wrote:
The primary reason to employ a grip and a second battery is to have the endurance of a model like a D4 which will deliver at least 1200 frames on a fresh battery vs 500 to 600 on a single EL-15 out of say, a D800. Plus the grip supports a marginally higher frame rate. So unless you have solid performance or ergonomic needs, leave the grip at home. Your wife or girlfriend (maybe both) will still respect you at the end of the day.


Like I stated above there are ergonomic reasons like mine for a grip.

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Apr 5, 2017 10:35:27   #
BlackRipleyDog
 
planepics wrote:
I thought with a grip everything was internal anyways...it's just 2 batteries in series rather than one in a single unit. Anyways, I don't have an external battery pack for my camera. I've also never tried time lapse...I don't think my a77 is capable and I don't really want to buy a separate intervolometer (or whatever it's called).


Think of the battery in the grip as the external one and the which is easily swapped out if needed.

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Apr 5, 2017 10:37:38   #
BlackRipleyDog
 
Brucej67 wrote:
Like I stated above there are ergonomic reasons like mine for a grip.

I personally like the feel of the grip on my 800. Especially in portrait orientation and counter-balancing that 80-200 2.8 af-d Nikkor (which weighs the same as my Beretta 92 A1).

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Apr 5, 2017 10:38:09   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
cjkorb wrote:
If a person buy's a battery grip just to make their camera look more professional...that's the wrong reason to buy one. For smaller DSLR's, they can work wonders, especially for vertical shots.


Not trying to be difficult but isn't the buyer's reason to spend money on anything the, "right", reason for them no matter what the reason is? It just seems wrong for you to dictate whatever the right reason should be.

Dennis

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Apr 5, 2017 11:16:35   #
BlackRipleyDog
 
planepics wrote:
I thought with a grip everything was internal anyways...it's just 2 batteries in series rather than one in a single unit. Anyways, I don't have an external battery pack for my camera. I've also never tried time lapse...I don't think my a77 is capable and I don't really want to buy a separate intervolometer (or whatever it's called).

I shoot Nikon and view the second battery as external by definition since the grip is an add-on piece of hardware to the camera. I just don't get wrapped up in the semantics as employed by some. I just go out and shoot.

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Apr 5, 2017 11:17:55   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
planepics wrote:
I thought with a grip everything was internal anyways...it's just 2 batteries in series rather than one in a single unit. Anyways, I don't have an external battery pack for my camera. I've also never tried time lapse...I don't think my a77 is capable and I don't really want to buy a separate intervolometer (or whatever it's called).


I know this is a small technical detail, but the batteries are in parallel. If they were in series, they would double the voltage and probably blow out every electronic component in the camera.

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Apr 5, 2017 11:20:17   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
joer wrote:
Over the years I have had original equipment or 3rd party grips for many of my cameras. The OE's always worked flawlessly but were costly. Some of the 3rd party grips worked well, some didn't. At the time I thought grips were awesome and gave the camera a professional look.

I finally realized that they were inconvenient at times, added weight, and made you look more conspicuous. Carrying an extra battery is so much better for me than lugging around the extra weight. It costs a whole less too.

Just my opinion, your views may differ.
Over the years I have had original equipment or 3r... (show quote)


I too have given some thought about battery grips. Back in film days the battery grips were coupled to motor drives which is why you needed battery grips, to run the motor in the grips. I find carrying an extra natter just fine. I do not really need more than that. In fact I can shoot several hundred shots before needing a new battery and then it goes another several hundred and the motor drive is now built into the camera not the grip. As for added weight the only time I mind it is when I use a bare bulb flash mounted to a flash bracket. That is a little awkward and a bit heavy because you have the movable mount to turn camera on its side and the heavy pro-flash with it's external High Voltage supply. I could only imagine what it would weigh then with a battery grip.

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Apr 5, 2017 12:40:23   #
Royce Moss Loc: Irvine, CA
 
I thought of getting a battery grip for my D7100. But why? Camera is plenty large enough, never need 2 batteries, don't care what people think eventhough when I'm out shooting I take a spare just in case.

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Apr 5, 2017 12:52:39   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
joer wrote:
Over the years I have had original equipment or 3rd party grips for many of my cameras. The OE's always worked flawlessly but were costly. Some of the 3rd party grips worked well, some didn't. At the time I thought grips were awesome and gave the camera a professional look.

I finally realized that they were inconvenient at times, added weight, and made you look more conspicuous. Carrying an extra battery is so much better for me than lugging around the extra weight. It costs a whole less too.

Just my opinion, your views may differ.
Over the years I have had original equipment or 3r... (show quote)


I do a lot of vertical/portrait oriented shots... probably close to half my shots. So for me the grips with their more comfortable vertical controls are pretty much a "must have".

I've used them on all my Canon cameras since film days (PB-E2 on EOS-3, for example)... Used them in other systems, too, as early as the 1980s. Such as the Nikon MD-12 on FM2n and FE cameras, affectionately known as the "AK47 of motor drives" because of the noises it makes. But the MD-12 didn't provide a comfortable vertical grip and secondary controls, the way the Canon MA Drive did for A-1 and AE-1 Program, or the way the FN Drive or FN Winder did for the New F-1. The MA and FN also have a neat "instant high speed drive" button!

Though I don't often do so, I prefer a camera with a removable grip... To be able to make it a little more compact and lighter for certain uses (hiking, cycling, travel).

I've always stuck with OEM... which have generally been good and reliable. I've simply heard and read too many stories about problems with the third party clones.

I have a gripe about the latest Canon grips I'm using (BG-E16 on 7DII)... instead of the batteries inserting directly into the grip, they now are first installed in a tray that slides into the grip. That works fine... except I have been trying to buy some extra trays in order to have them pre-loaded with batteries for faster swaps when shooting. However, extra trays are impossible to find and Canon is utterly clueless about it. I've asked the major retailers, Canon support, CPS and even Canon's repair/parts department... no help at all! I've even been advised by support to buy the AA battery holders for 5D Mark II grip and other things that certainly won't fit and work! C'mon Canon (or some third party manufacturer)... this isn't rocket science.

Other minor gripes.... Why the heck aren't those trays fully interchangeable between different grips? It doesn't seem like that would be a difficult thing to do... would help keep costs down and be a real convenience for photographers using multiple camera models with grips.

And, what's up with the grip naming conventions? The original 7D used BG-E7... Why doesn't the 7DII use a BG-E7II? Instead it uses a BG-E16? Seems to me that Canon could make it a lot easier for people to buy and use these things, if the model names simply made more sense.

OTOH, the addition of the second joystick is simply brilliant.... now found on the grips for 5DIII and later, and 7DII. That solved one of the minor limitations of earlier cameras' grips.

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Apr 5, 2017 12:59:08   #
BlackRipleyDog
 
Royce Moss wrote:
I thought of getting a battery grip for my D7100. But why? Camera is plenty large enough, never need 2 batteries, don't care what people think eventhough when I'm out shooting I take a spare just in case.

A spare is a given anyway.

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Apr 5, 2017 13:54:25   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Not trying to be difficult but isn't the buyer's reason to spend money on anything the, "right", reason for them no matter what the reason is? It just seems wrong for you to dictate whatever the right reason should be.

Dennis
You can be as difficult as you want, if a person wants to buy a grip just to make a camera look more professional and not for the intended purpose, fine. Doesn't mean I have to agree with it.

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Apr 5, 2017 13:57:48   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
joer wrote:
Over the years I have had original equipment or 3rd party grips for many of my cameras. The OE's always worked flawlessly but were costly. Some of the 3rd party grips worked well, some didn't. At the time I thought grips were awesome and gave the camera a professional look.

I finally realized that they were inconvenient at times, added weight, and made you look more conspicuous. Carrying an extra battery is so much better for me than lugging around the extra weight. It costs a whole less too.

Just my opinion, your views may differ.
Over the years I have had original equipment or 3r... (show quote)
Mine do, but besides that, all my cameras have battery grips, but none less, I still carry extra/spare batteries with me at all times!

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