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Mar 23, 2017 10:29:21   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
oneillj wrote:
I'm taking a course on Photigy. Alex Koloskov has a white wall in his studio. I have a white cloth background (some kind of muslin) that's supposedly wrinkly free. It's OK for high key because I can blow out the background but for a gray or gradient, you can still see the wrinkles. I can't use seamless paper because I'm in my house and need something I can pack up and store easily. It also needs to be fairly big because some of shots require bouncing light. So, I'm trying to find a background that will work. Any ideas? I've included an attachment so you can see the issue.
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First question is How Large? 6'x6'? 2'x3'? Craft stores have cardboard, poster board and plastic project boards in white in that size category, some craft stores have roll paper in white about 18''-24" wide, real backgrounds from a vendor like "Denny's" think that's the name, come 6' x 6' or so, B&H have pop up backgrounds in white in several sizes, more of a research and budget question actually, Bob.

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Mar 23, 2017 10:35:41   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
If 48x96 inches works for you, I'd suggest foam core. They actually make foam core with one side black and the other white. That would solve the wrinkle problem quite nicely and it's fairly sturdy.
--Bob

oneillj wrote:
I'm taking a course on Photigy. Alex Koloskov has a white wall in his studio. I have a white cloth background (some kind of muslin) that's supposedly wrinkly free. It's OK for high key because I can blow out the background but for a gray or gradient, you can still see the wrinkles. I can't use seamless paper because I'm in my house and need something I can pack up and store easily. It also needs to be fairly big because some of shots require bouncing light. So, I'm trying to find a background that will work. Any ideas? I've included an attachment so you can see the issue.
I'm taking a course on Photigy. Alex Koloskov has ... (show quote)

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Mar 23, 2017 10:37:36   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
I understand that you are practicing photography on simple tabletop subjects where you can control the lighting and background. But what you are really doing is product photography. I didn't hear mention of the term "cove" background which is frequently used. Backgrounds are indeed a difficult issue. Your instructor should help you with these issues. I have found a relatively thin white smooth plastic sheet about .2 mil. It allows me to bend it slightly for a background cove effect. It's cleanable with soap and water too. I forgot the name of the product but it is similar to a plastic laminate sheet.

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Mar 23, 2017 10:52:25   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
oneillj wrote:
I'm taking a course on Photigy. Alex Koloskov has a white wall in his studio. I have a white cloth background (some kind of muslin) that's supposedly wrinkly free. It's OK for high key because I can blow out the background but for a gray or gradient, you can still see the wrinkles. I can't use seamless paper because I'm in my house and need something I can pack up and store easily. It also needs to be fairly big because some of shots require bouncing light. So, I'm trying to find a background that will work. Any ideas? I've included an attachment so you can see the issue.
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A long roll of white background is easy to hide in a corner on one end and sets up on a background stand. Muslim may be wrinkle free but the texture is what you see and all cloth has texture. the rolls come in different widths and if you can only get one width you can cut the roll in half using a jigsaw with a knife blade style blade otherwise you have a lot of fine paper bits all over using the saw tooth blade. I know I vacuumed them up once. That way you can make that roll of paper any width you want. An if you do 1/2 on a 10 foot roll you have 2 five foot ones. You could if you have a spare room build a corner round at the floor and wall and use the room as a studio. One wall would be for shooting on and a white wall is universal as you can use gels on lights to make it any color you want.

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Mar 23, 2017 11:04:19   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
oneillj wrote:
I'm taking a course on Photigy. Alex Koloskov has a white wall in his studio. I have a white cloth background (some kind of muslin) that's supposedly wrinkly free. It's OK for high key because I can blow out the background but for a gray or gradient, you can still see the wrinkles. I can't use seamless paper because I'm in my house and need something I can pack up and store easily. It also needs to be fairly big because some of shots require bouncing light. So, I'm trying to find a background that will work. Any ideas? I've included an attachment so you can see the issue.
I'm taking a course on Photigy. Alex Koloskov has ... (show quote)


A few hints:

Large, broad light sources for fill and background lights; more specular lights for accents and main
Wide apertures for shallow depth of field
Macro lens
Silk or velveteen or white velcro cloth (the kind used on trade show display walls)
Light tents or a roll of Rosco Soft-Frost material

Check out Denny's backgrounds and backdrops. http://www.dennymfg.com
Check out Westcott's stuff. https://www.fjwestcott.com/shop/backdrops

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Mar 23, 2017 11:22:33   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
burkphoto wrote:
A few hints:

Large, broad light sources for fill and background lights; more specular lights for accents and main
Wide apertures for shallow depth of field
Macro lens
Silk or velveteen or white velcro cloth (the kind used on trade show display walls)
Light tents or a roll of Rosco Soft-Frost material

Check out Denny's backgrounds and backdrops. http://www.dennymfg.com
Check out Westcott's stuff. https://www.fjwestcott.com/shop/backdrops



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Mar 23, 2017 11:27:41   #
Haydon
 
rmalarz wrote:
If 48x96 inches works for you, I'd suggest foam core. They actually make foam core with one side black and the other white. That would solve the wrinkle problem quite nicely and it's fairly sturdy.
--Bob


I'm looking for a pair of B&W to make one V-Flat locally without success. Unfortunately finding foamcore at 1/2"x48"x96" can only be found so far at Set Shop in NYC and driving there would be absolute madness even from CT. where I live. Shipping cost on this item is more expensive than the product because of sizing.

http://setshop.com/foamboard-(foamcore)/vflats/black-white-vflat.html

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Mar 23, 2017 11:31:04   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
You might have, tucked away somewhere (not used so often these days) a white projection screen....Remember colour slides, and cine film with their projectors???

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Mar 23, 2017 11:36:21   #
Clifster
 
For smaller items, I use a 2' x 2' shadow box, where I can roll up the background. It is small enough to iron it when needed.

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Mar 23, 2017 12:57:42   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
Pablo8 wrote:
You might have, tucked away somewhere (not used so often these days) a white projection screen....Remember colour slides, and cine film with their projectors???


last time I looked they have started to turn yellow from age and I do not think they can be washed

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Mar 23, 2017 13:10:12   #
Glasswerks
 
Lots of good ideas, but first try smaller f-stops to blur the background but keeping subject in the focus field.

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Mar 23, 2017 13:19:53   #
drklrd Loc: Cincinnati Ohio
 
Glasswerks wrote:
Lots of good ideas, but first try smaller f-stops to blur the background but keeping subject in the focus field.



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Mar 23, 2017 14:02:13   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
I use white poster board for something that small. Place the object on the board and let the rest go up the wall or the back or a chair, there will be no seams to contend with. I have others colors of poster board if needed. You don't have to spent a lot of money for a set up unless you need something like that often. Than you could build something more permanent.

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Mar 23, 2017 15:19:21   #
rscholl Loc: Menlo Park, VA
 
If you already have one, a "movie" (or slide) screen will work, especially if far enough from the subject to be out of focus

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Mar 23, 2017 15:19:46   #
oneillj
 
I have those. Good for portraits but, unfortunately, still retain the wrinkles.

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