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Mar 15, 2017 11:31:42   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
While I agree in principle with the original sentiments specialized equipment will enable you to get better shots than otherwise e.g. long, fast lenses with birds.

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Mar 15, 2017 11:36:07   #
Paul J. Svetlik Loc: Colorado
 
Yes, the image is what always counts. The equipment does not guarantee successful pictures.
For that a photographer has to have a certain skill

but

when I see a good image that tells the story, I will be always interested to know, what kind of tool was used - so I can see the advantage of that certain, sometimes a very special tool accomplishing the interesting image.
And yes, you can hammer in a finishing nail with a sludge hammer - if you know how to go around the inconveniences of the tool and not smashing your fingers, but there are more efficient hammers to do the same task much easier.

That is why I would like to know those more efficient tools.
I wish everybody on the UHH forum would provide this harmless information.

I remember several years ago George Lepp (in Outdoor Photography magazine) published a stunning picture of a beautiful gorge taken with a small Canon G10 camera mounted on a motorized panoramic head. George very kindly explained his successful experiment - nobody without that special equipment would be able to make. It was a good information for anybody who likes to make big panoramas.

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Mar 15, 2017 11:36:31   #
digit-up Loc: Flushing, Michigan
 
Kevin H wrote:
It is very true that expensive equipment does not make the photographer. Expansive anything does not always make the user better, but does help the user that has the ambition to learn. I am in my mid-60's and have played the guitar since I was in 4th grade. I had a very inexpensive guitar when I first started and had a difficult time learning because the strings were hard to push down and the action was poor. after two years I inherited a high end guitar and my learning accelerated like I was shot out of a cannon. Better equipment enhanced my ability to learn. I love photography and have experimented with it since high school. Technology changes so there is a lot to keep up with. Good equipment and great photo processing hardware helps greatly but ONLY if you put in the time. Otherwise, as you said, good equipment will not do it for you.
It is very true that expensive equipment does not ... (show quote)


Very well said, Kevin, and true too, as far as I have learned. Thanks for saying so. RJM

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Mar 15, 2017 11:38:16   #
GWolf Loc: Ashland, OR
 
One of the most vexing statements I hear from time to time is, 'oh what a good picture, you must have a good camera'.

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Mar 15, 2017 11:38:32   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
GAlanFInk wrote:
It is important to remember that it is not so much the tool that completes the project as the 'mechanic' handling that tool. The camera is a tool and, if you don't know how to fully appreciate it's capabilities, you will never be happy with your output, that is, if you seek quality work. The attached is obviously photoshopped (a lot of branches) but the capture (from a Nikon P900 nearly two hundred meters away) was very pleasing to me.


Some kind of camera, a lot cheaper then a 500mmf/4.0 lens. How does it work on BIF? BTW great shot and especially at more then 200 meters!

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Mar 15, 2017 11:54:31   #
blacks2 Loc: SF. Bay area
 
I find that so many photographers are braggers, you just have to look on this forum how many are listing their camera arsenal. Who cares, let your images talk not your possessions.

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Mar 15, 2017 11:54:44   #
Ralloh Loc: Ohio
 
mentor38 wrote:
I taught beginning and advanced photography for several years and often had students who could afford, and bought, the latest in equipment, but were and would always be lousy photographers. It wasn't their fault in many cases because they never studied composition or lighting or any of the other things that characterize good photographers -- but they sure had the best equipment. I am always amazed by the members of this group who gladly specify the kind of equipment they own but never talk about their work. To me, it's like a woodworker bragging about the shop equipment he owns, but an inspection of his work shows that he doesn't produce better quality products than someone with much cheaper tools.

When I was a teenager I worked in an auto repair shop where the owner paid more attention to the quality of work the workers produced than he did to their toolboxes. Sometimes, he said, a better toolbox just meant they had better credit or more money in their pockets that the other mechanics.

Just observing.
I taught beginning and advanced photography for se... (show quote)


Thank you. Some of us simply do not have money to burn so have to make do with what we can afford. In my case, a Nikon D3100 with kit lenses. It makes me put forth the effort to really learn the craft. Am I producing commercial quality? Probably not, but, I will stack it up against many of the "have to have it" crowd any day.

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Mar 15, 2017 12:01:48   #
dat2ra Loc: Sacramento
 
But on the other hand, I don't know of any modern, top-level pro photographer who shoots with crap equipment.

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Mar 15, 2017 12:05:54   #
Ralloh Loc: Ohio
 
dat2ra wrote:
But on the other hand, I don't know of any modern, top-level pro photographer who shoots with crap equipment.


I don't know who you are directing this too, but, of course if you are going to be a "pro photographer", you will want the best you can get. Particularly in lenses. Most of us are not pros and have no intention of ever being a pro. "Crap equipment"? A bit harsh don't you think? You totally missed the point of the OPs post.

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Mar 15, 2017 12:11:06   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
dat2ra wrote:
But on the other hand, I don't know of any modern, top-level pro photographer who shoots with crap equipment.


Because something is less expensive or older doesn't make it crap. And who knows, the pros that are well known might have very well gotten there using what you call crap.

Norm Abrams was laughed at because he mentioned an amateur's woodworking shop would cost about $5,000. This was 20 years ago. He asked how many had boats that cost over $10,000. Being on Eastern Long Island quite a few hands flew up to which he replied, "I guess you are all commercial fisherman".

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Mar 15, 2017 12:26:55   #
charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.
 
mentor38 wrote:
I taught beginning and advanced photography for several years and often had students who could afford, and bought, the latest in equipment, but were and would always be lousy photographers. It wasn't their fault in many cases because they never studied composition or lighting or any of the other things that characterize good photographers -- but they sure had the best equipment. I am always amazed by the members of this group who gladly specify the kind of equipment they own but never talk about their work. To me, it's like a woodworker bragging about the shop equipment he owns, but an inspection of his work shows that he doesn't produce better quality products than someone with much cheaper tools.

When I was a teenager I worked in an auto repair shop where the owner paid more attention to the quality of work the workers produced than he did to their toolboxes. Sometimes, he said, a better toolbox just meant they had better credit or more money in their pockets that the other mechanics.

Just observing.
I taught beginning and advanced photography for se... (show quote)


I try and keep my equipment as up to date as I can afford. I try and keep some of the pictures that I feel proud of.
Like this shot I took at Tulum Mexico.



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Mar 15, 2017 12:27:23   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
Ralloh wrote:
... have to make do with what we can afford. In my case, a Nikon D3100 with kit lenses. ... I will stack it up against many of the "have to have it" crowd any day.

That 3100 was a fine camera in its day and still quite serviceable with an 18-55 and 55-300.

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Mar 15, 2017 12:30:25   #
Dutzie Loc: I'd like to know
 
Don't be to harsh. I don't have an artistic bone in my body. When I try to get the image, well lets say I'm usually disappointed. I can't blame it on the camera, just my short comings when it comes to some inane genetic ability that just isn't there. I enjoy the state of the art when it comes to cameras and lenses. I get the best I can afford. They are several levels ahead of my ability to get the image I want. But I can rest on the thought it is me and not the equipment. When I see an image that everybody is OHH'ng over , I wonder how many shots the person took before one was worth showing to the crew here.. I'm done now!

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Mar 15, 2017 12:45:46   #
lsupremo Loc: Palm Desert, CA
 
On the other hand, I have an old kit camera and old kit lenses, but I create some good images. However, it frustrates me that there are lots of things I know I can't create with what I have.

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Mar 15, 2017 12:47:05   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
mentor38 wrote:
I taught beginning and advanced photography for several years and often had students who could afford, and bought, the latest in equipment, but were and would always be lousy photographers. It wasn't their fault in many cases because they never studied composition or lighting or any of the other things that characterize good photographers -- but they sure had the best equipment. I am always amazed by the members of this group who gladly specify the kind of equipment they own but never talk about their work. To me, it's like a woodworker bragging about the shop equipment he owns, but an inspection of his work shows that he doesn't produce better quality products than someone with much cheaper tools.

When I was a teenager I worked in an auto repair shop where the owner paid more attention to the quality of work the workers produced than he did to their toolboxes. Sometimes, he said, a better toolbox just meant they had better credit or more money in their pockets that the other mechanics.

Just observing.
I taught beginning and advanced photography for se... (show quote)


A photographer is invited to a woman's home for dinner. As a gift, he brings her one of his framed images. She says, " wow, what a beautiful picture! You must have a really good camera."

At the end of the evening, as the photographer is preparing to leave, the woman asks him how he liked the dinner. He said, " it was delicious! You must have a really good stove."

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