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Questions About The Nikon AF DC-NIKKOR 135mm f/2D Lens
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Mar 6, 2017 17:41:50   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
Gene51 wrote:
Don't have one. Great lens. Don't know anything about it other than what I have read - and it does make sense. I didn't miss a thing, as I don't claim to know anything about it, but you apparently did by your own admission. But the question is do you have one or are you just reading the same things I am and proclaiming, once again, to be the expert on something you have no experience with . . . Just sayin'

(I am in the mood to poke at you today, nothing personal, just having some fun)


Anyway, stop deflecting and show us some images - I am sure if you have one, you've taken a few, just like the real photographers that posted some really nice work. You are a real photographer, aren't you?
Don't have one. Great lens. Don't know anything ab... (show quote)

Fabricated personal discussion based on gratuitous commentary is not "just having some fun". It's a display of envy similar to stalking and has no place in a technical discussion that should be on a level of high integrity.

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Mar 6, 2017 20:13:40   #
Rick36203 Loc: Northeast Alabama
 
Mac, since all the examples here apparently have been shot at f/4 or greater I shot a few comparison shots with mine today.

The first sample shows f/2, f/2.8, and f/4 comparisons. DC not used. All were shot at very close to minimum focus distance on a tripod. The distance from focus point to background lights was about 5 feet or a little less.

The second group were all shot at f/4. I used DC as indicated. The ones marked R8? and F8? were in the unmarked slot beyond the 5.6 indicators on the DC control ring. R and F indicate Rear and Front defocus. In the second group the lights were only 3 feet behind the focus point. You can judge if you think the effect is significant or not.


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Mar 6, 2017 20:40:42   #
Rick36203 Loc: Northeast Alabama
 
I noticed that the f/2 to f/4 sample above shows a nice representation of the bokeh difference at the different apertures, but not really the detail difference at the focus point. To show that f/2 is really a bit soft you need to look at the fine detail differences on the usb thumb drive in this image.


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Mar 7, 2017 09:52:55   #
aflundi Loc: Albuquerque, NM
 
aflundi wrote:
I can't say I followed your explanation. Are you saying that the plane of focus actually shifts away from the PDAF point toward one DoF bound or the other at the same time and in addition to the SA corrections? And that the DC lens has DoF builtin, and therefore an assumed CoC -- presumably for FF -- in order to know where the DoF bounds are? [ ... ]

I assume that when SA over/under correction happens, the point of best focus will shift. I had assumed this would be a small effect compared to the DoF. However, after thinking more about it, and seeing pictures with DC adjustments (including the ones Rick36203 provided), it looks to me like the SA correction focus shift may well be comparable in size to the DoF rather than much smaller.

Is it possible that that is exactly what Floyd (apaflo) described, and that Nikon in making the lens, put markings on the DC adjustment such that the SA correction shift corresponds to the DoF bounds or some practical, reasonable, large percentage of the way to the DoF bound? If so that would tie everything together quite nicely, and make it all easy to understand and use -- at least conceptually .

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