Advice on speedlite (Page 4): Interesting, but puzzling since ETTL as implemented by the Yongnuos works fine on the 5D3, and they're are a clone of the Canon 600EX-RT, which I believe...

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Haydon wrote:

I first read about this over at CanonRumors with a... (show quote)

Interesting, but puzzling since ETTL as implemented by the Yongnuos works fine on the 5D3, and they're are a clone of the Canon 600EX-RT, which I believe is a recommended flash for the 5D4.

Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina

I would think the 600 version II would be recommended, but I could be wrong...
That is the latest and greatest Canon Speedlite.

Best,
Todd Ferguson

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Notorious T.O.D. wrote:

I would think the 600 version II would be recommended, but I could be wrong...
That is the latest and greatest Canon Speedlite.

Best,
Todd Ferguson

Makes sense - maybe Canon made a small change to delay the clones. Wouldn't surprise me if Yongnuo came up with a FW upgrade after they reverse engineer it. I have both the Canon and Yongnuo version of the 600, and frankly, you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference, but who knows about the long-term reliability of the Yongnuo. If I were a pro or had an important shot and had to choose one flash, I'd use Canons or carry a spare Yongnuo until I had a better feel for the long-term reliability.

DavidM Loc: New Orleans, LA

Blurryeyed wrote:

Take a look at Yongnuo Flashes, they are very reliable and are Canon knockoffs, have only heard great things about them, you can purchase three or more Yongnuo's for the price of one comparable Canon. The 460 series are manual flashes, the 600's are ETTL's

See this site for Yougnuo gear and information. Also join this facebook group for speedlight fundamentals:

http://www.facebook.com/groups/speedlightfundamentals/?ref=nf_target&fref=nf

Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina

TriX wrote:

Makes sense - maybe Canon made a small change to delay the clones. Wouldn't surprise me if Yongnuo came up with a FW upgrade after they reverse engineer it. I have both the Canon and Yongnuo version of the 600, and frankly, you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference, but who knows about the long-term reliability of the Yongnuo. If I were a pro or had an important shot and had to choose one flash, I'd use Canons or carry a spare Yongnuo until I had a better feel for the long-term reliability.

I am curious which flash is actually firing first... the triggered one or the non triggered one. If it is the non triggered one then I would suspect it is the ETTL preflash triggering it. Otherwise, I don't know. Could be a number of things.

I have the Canon 600 I and II. The II supposedly recharges faster and the carry pouch and the diffuser and filter attachment has been totally redesigned. Both work fine with the ST-E3-RT transmitter/controller. The genuine Canon stuff costs more, but I can count on it working to get the shots I need and want.

Best,
Todd Ferguson

CMH

I'm a newbie at this and a little knowledge is dangerous. Thus, I will only venture two suggestions: In a morning class I just took we used a Yongnuo 622 wireless trigger/receiver set. With additional receivers, it can control any number of flash units and do so from your camera without having to run around adjusting each flash. Amazon sells a trigger with one receiver for only $73; by far the lowest cost I have seen. In the course, the instructor also tethered the camera to Lightroom on his laptop, giving much better feedback on the results than the small screen on his camera. If this is really a "one shot" assignment, why not rent the gear?

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Notorious T.O.D. wrote:

I am curious which flash is actually firing first.... (show quote)

Don't know as I'm using the ST-E3-RT to trigger both simultaneously via radio, not optically. Absolutely agree on genuine Canon. I just added the Yongnuo as a second flash for my amatuer work. So far, so good...

Cheers,
Chris

GWolf Loc: Ashland, OR

If you have time for online reading and really want to get a handle on using speedlites, check out: http://strobist.blogspot.com/
It got me started.

tresap23 Loc: Texas

Thanks, I will do that!

Peterff wrote:

Although I only have Canon Speedlites (one new, two used) I fully agree with this. Softboxes don't have to be expensive and Youngnuo gear comes well recommended. I have some of their triggers, so for your budget I would take a look. Try Amazon, pick some things, then ask the group what we think of your potential choices before you buy!

tresap23 Loc: Texas

Thanks I am checking on it! I was up late last night, researching all the options, still have to make a decision!

speters wrote:

Look at Yungnuo's 600 EX RT's (about $115 ea.) They're are sure worth that little (almost equal their Canon counterpart/actually you can work them together/side by side with no problems)! For such small amount, you can't go wrong, that's a lot of bang for the buck!!

tresap23 Loc: Texas

Thanks! Not sure where this will lead, but as much as I love photography, I don't think it will hurt to have the gear I need, when these opportunities come my way. even to have for all the pictures I take of my family, special occasions, and my granddaughters boutique modeling, it will come in handy!. Also, if I do ok on this shoot, I might get more jobs, and I am "not" opposed to taking in a little extra cash. It helps fund my hobby!! I will look at your suggestions, and when I decide I will let everyone know! Thanks!

TriX wrote:

Don't know as I'm using the ST-E3-RT to trigger both simultaneously via radio, not optically. Absolutely agree on genuine Canon. I just added the Yongnuo as a second flash for my amatuer work. So far, so good...

Cheers,
Chris

tresap23 Loc: Texas

I will def. look at it, and make sure it works with my 5D Mark IV!

TriX wrote:

Interesting, but puzzling since ETTL as implemented by the Yongnuos works fine on the 5D3, and they're are a clone of the Canon 600EX-RT, which I believe is a recommended flash for the 5D4.

tresap23 Loc: Texas

I thought of that as well, I might make a drive to the camera shop and look at that option. I might have to do that because of time issue. I hate to make a impulse decision, due to time constraints, and later regret it. But, I know I need a external light source. Wow, no one told me when I started this, that it is addictive, and expensive haha. Too late to turn back now. I am "hooked"!! And I am invested, money wise! Plus,I really like it. I was looking at a new lens and a new mirrorless camera for travel, but I guess that will go on the backburner for now. Until I get all my lighting. Maybe I can make enough, once I do, to buy some of the other stuff!!

CMH wrote:

I'm a newbie at this and a little knowledge is dan... (show quote)

Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina

Well if you really want to spend some money on lighting gear you can look at Profoto B1 and B2 strobes...

Best,
Todd Ferguson

tresap23 Loc: Texas

Thanks, let me ask you this, will the lights that I have with my lightbox kit work for lighting the back? add a speedlight to that to bounce off the ceiling? Not sure if that is an option. If the lighting is the same? I have never worked with any lighting sources other than outdoor, and lights indoors, (parties, holiday's etc.) Once I did have to use them to do product pics I take for a friend. They needed pictures of their sporthooks in a home setting, and the room was not well lit, and it was a cloudy, rainy day. They were all I had. But it worked. But, that was metal hooks, not a person.

camerapapi wrote:

If you are to be shooting outdoors a flash could b... (show quote)