L Lens on a crop sensor camera Question?
Jan 31, 2017 09:43:40 #
leftj wrote:
But unnecessary. Almost every post on UHH would require some grammatical clarification but it's not necessary because most of us are smart enough to figure out what is being conveyed and we don't have to resort to being English teachers. No disrespect to English teachers. Some of my best friends are English teachers.
Really? Perhaps you should define 'us'!
Jan 31, 2017 09:55:27 #
jaimeblackwell wrote:
I think what this fellow was trying to say is if y... (show quote)
Canon is a 1.6
Jan 31, 2017 10:01:43 #
Its interesting to read the difference between Canon shooters and Nikon users.
The urguments have been circling lens quality
for years. I doubt trying to convince some other guys equipment matters much. Clarity between
compact zooms ofter get thrown into the mix.
One thing I noticed while shooting both Canon an Nikon zooms is the softer focus areas at mid point in the zooms travel. Its well known by portraits shooters that either end of most zooms design by picking one end of the travel or the other - such as 70 f3.5 will soften as the extention tube lengthens. Some zooms with a larger nano coating on 4 elements does allow more light at better color consistancies.
If you have questions check out the lens chart on dpreview and pull up the tests charts.
Canon and Nikon have been showing how light bends with different element construction.
One common answer is less is better. This idea
applies to fixed lens verses larger edif glass on
Nikon iris. Canon solved some of this with large
Iris glass or low dispersion glass, since Canon bought the glass MFg from the Germans. They had a hold on the this process for almost 55 years. So if you like packing around a sport lens 2.8 - 200 -400 zoom at 14 pounds of aluminium casing. Then have at it. But pro spirt lens are extremely expensive. Most shooters rent them because of the price. Few guys can afford these lens whether Nikon nor Canon. One thing I do like about Canon is they ad lighter gear an more color saturation with lets say a 500 mm 4.0
But Canon always had harnass problems with their cramped prisum system. Its why I carried Nikon for far less repair problems. But I did use both professionally. Backed both up do to failures. Less choices with these newer short or compact zooms only render fair sharpness at the mid point of travel. So most guys I talk to at events use one end or the other of the zoom for best results. Mid focus maybe soft even poor.
Yoou choose what works for your shooting.
Don't worry so much about what is best. Get the shot. That is the idea.
The urguments have been circling lens quality
for years. I doubt trying to convince some other guys equipment matters much. Clarity between
compact zooms ofter get thrown into the mix.
One thing I noticed while shooting both Canon an Nikon zooms is the softer focus areas at mid point in the zooms travel. Its well known by portraits shooters that either end of most zooms design by picking one end of the travel or the other - such as 70 f3.5 will soften as the extention tube lengthens. Some zooms with a larger nano coating on 4 elements does allow more light at better color consistancies.
If you have questions check out the lens chart on dpreview and pull up the tests charts.
Canon and Nikon have been showing how light bends with different element construction.
One common answer is less is better. This idea
applies to fixed lens verses larger edif glass on
Nikon iris. Canon solved some of this with large
Iris glass or low dispersion glass, since Canon bought the glass MFg from the Germans. They had a hold on the this process for almost 55 years. So if you like packing around a sport lens 2.8 - 200 -400 zoom at 14 pounds of aluminium casing. Then have at it. But pro spirt lens are extremely expensive. Most shooters rent them because of the price. Few guys can afford these lens whether Nikon nor Canon. One thing I do like about Canon is they ad lighter gear an more color saturation with lets say a 500 mm 4.0
But Canon always had harnass problems with their cramped prisum system. Its why I carried Nikon for far less repair problems. But I did use both professionally. Backed both up do to failures. Less choices with these newer short or compact zooms only render fair sharpness at the mid point of travel. So most guys I talk to at events use one end or the other of the zoom for best results. Mid focus maybe soft even poor.
Yoou choose what works for your shooting.
Don't worry so much about what is best. Get the shot. That is the idea.
Jan 31, 2017 10:04:59 #
The size of my eye glasses will never change the quality of the glass they are made of. Where on my nose they hang will not change the quality of the glass I'm looking through.
Jan 31, 2017 10:06:45 #
leftj
Loc: Texas
Peterff wrote:
You may believe, but you would be wrong in your be... (show quote)
The term "kit lens" has come to mean that it is the lens bundled with the camera when you purchase them as a kit.
Jan 31, 2017 10:24:09 #
chocofurniture
Loc: Chocowinity NC
I am a beginner; when I first heard that a 200mm lens mounted on a crop sensor was equivlent to the focal length X the crop sensor size, that didn't make sense to me. After researching this I found out that the correct term should be angle of view. That made sense; so words do confuse beginners..
Jan 31, 2017 10:25:55 #
leftj
Loc: Texas
chocofurniture wrote:
I am a beginner; when I first heard that a 200mm lens mounted on a crop sensor was equivlent to the focal length X the crop sensor size, that didn't make sense to me. After researching this I found out that the correct term should be angle of view. That made sense; so words do confuse beginners..
Wrong again.
Jan 31, 2017 10:34:03 #
Jan 31, 2017 10:38:03 #
Jan 31, 2017 10:46:04 #
leftj wrote:
The term "kit lens" has come to mean that it is the lens bundled with the camera when you purchase them as a kit.
And your point is?
If you read my post slowly and carefully you might find that I said that, and that any lens of any grade can be included in a bundle, so the term "kit lens" is for most intents and purposes meaningless.
It really has no worth as a value judgement.
Jan 31, 2017 10:50:42 #
leftj
Loc: Texas
Peterff wrote:
And your point is?
If you read my post slowly and carefully you might find that I said that, and that any lens of any grade can be included in a bundle, so the term "kit lens" is for most intents and purposes meaningless.
It really has no worth as a value judgement.
If you read my post slowly and carefully you might find that I said that, and that any lens of any grade can be included in a bundle, so the term "kit lens" is for most intents and purposes meaningless.
It really has no worth as a value judgement.
An your point is?
You said there is no such thing as a "kit" lens and then contradicted yourself in your next sentence. Canon cameras can also be purchased with a "kit" lens.
Jan 31, 2017 10:51:36 #
catchlight..
Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
You are only using part of the L lens and you are much better off getting a crop lens...please watch and note this is only one of many tutorials.
The outcome is a softer image.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDbUIfB5YUc
The outcome is a softer image.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDbUIfB5YUc
Jan 31, 2017 11:00:18 #
leftj wrote:
An your point is?
You said there is no such thing as a "kit" lens and then contradicted yourself in your next sentence. Canon cameras can also be purchased with a "kit" lens.
You said there is no such thing as a "kit" lens and then contradicted yourself in your next sentence. Canon cameras can also be purchased with a "kit" lens.
We are talking semantics, there are lenses that are included in bundles, but the lens does not change if it is not included in a bundle or is separated from a bundle.
The phrase "kit lens" is used as a derisory term and as often as not inappropriately so. Many of the lenses included in bundles are excellent, some are not. The term "kit lens" has no meaningfull value other than being derogatory.
Jan 31, 2017 11:03:34 #
catchlight.. wrote:
You are only using part of the L lens and you are much better off getting a crop lens...please watch and note this is only one of many tutorials.
The outcome is a softer image.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDbUIfB5YUc
The outcome is a softer image.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDbUIfB5YUc
I have already suggested that but many are too interested in argueing trivia to listen.
Jan 31, 2017 11:08:21 #
leftj
Loc: Texas
Peterff wrote:
We are talking semantics, there are lenses that are included in bundles, but the lens does not change if it is not included in a bundle or is separated from a bundle.
The phrase "kit lens" is used as a derisory term and as often as not inappropriately so. Many of the lenses included in bundles are excellent, some are not. The term "kit lens" has no meaningfull value other than being derogatory.
The phrase "kit lens" is used as a derisory term and as often as not inappropriately so. Many of the lenses included in bundles are excellent, some are not. The term "kit lens" has no meaningfull value other than being derogatory.
In your mind it might be a derogatory term. It is simply part of a kit which is a collection of items that are packaged together.
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