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Jan 15, 2017 09:46:53   #
whitewolfowner
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
As an OU quarterback, he broke his leg playing against the University of Miami (at Owen Field at OU in Norman, OK) After he broke his leg, the second string QB came in and took over. OU lost to Miami in that game BUT the second string quarterback (Jamelle Holliway) who led OU to win the National Championship (Miami being their only loss of the season). Aikman transferred to UCLA and was the consummate OU hater. He especially hated Barry Switzer and was terribly offended when Switzer became the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. While Aikman was an ok qb (The next year he was at UCLA and giving them tips on OU because they had to play them that year. OU lost that game) he never got the appreciation or love that Jamelle Holliway got in Oklahoma. Aikman (from Henryetta, OK) was considered an outcast and traitor by the OU fans and their love was returned by him. He was never particularly popular there. Now, the Dallas Cowboy fans in Oklahoma really liked him but never as an OU quarterback. I had met him a couple of times and always thought he was a primadonna and jerk.
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Many of those people are that at best. They are so used to being pumped up as gods and can do anything they want and get away with it, they barely belong in the human race as people. Then there are the good ones who never let that BS go their heads and are great people. I have met both kinds.

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Jan 15, 2017 10:30:28   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
As an OU quarterback, he broke his leg playing against the University of Miami (at Owen Field at OU in Norman, OK) After he broke his leg, the second string QB came in and took over. OU lost to Miami in that game BUT the second string quarterback (Jamelle Holliway) who led OU to win the National Championship (Miami being their only loss of the season). Aikman transferred to UCLA and was the consummate OU hater. He especially hated Barry Switzer and was terribly offended when Switzer became the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. While Aikman was an ok qb (The next year he was at UCLA and giving them tips on OU because they had to play them that year. OU lost that game) he never got the appreciation or love that Jamelle Holliway got in Oklahoma. Aikman (from Henryetta, OK) was considered an outcast and traitor by the OU fans and their love was returned by him. He was never particularly popular there. Now, the Dallas Cowboy fans in Oklahoma really liked him but never as an OU quarterback. I had met him a couple of times and always thought he was a primadonna and jerk.
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Interesting. Barry Switzer was fired by owner Jerry Jones. Switzer accidentally had a handgun in his belongings, while at an Airport Check-in for the Cowboys Air Travel. He wasn't arrested, but Jerry was none to happy about it. As for Aikman acting like a Prima Donna. Believe me, he is not the first, and most certainly won't be the last. Aikman has been a NFL TV commentator for quite some time now.

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Jan 15, 2017 12:06:50   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
mas24 wrote:
Interesting. Barry Switzer was fired by owner Jerry Jones. Switzer accidentally had a handgun in his belongings, while at an Airport Check-in for the Cowboys Air Travel. He wasn't arrested, but Jerry was none to happy about it. As for Aikman acting like a Prima Donna. Believe me, he is not the first, and most certainly won't be the last. Aikman has been a NFL TV commentator for quite some time now.


I agree. Aikman also had a fire in his home that was "not considered suspicious" by the local fire department. As for Switzer, the hand gun had nothing to do with his being fired it was the "other" things and Aikman's constant disapproval of Switzer. Jones, Switzer and Johnson were all best friends in college at Arkansas and the hand gun was just the excuse (or final straw). Johnson and Switzer were best friends as both were assistant coaches under Jim Mackenzie. Chuck Fairbanks became OU's head coach. Prior to that Switzer, Johnson and another coach, I think Larry Lacewell were all drinking/party buddies and were inseparable. If you were at a club in those days and saw either Johnson, Switzer, or the other coach, the other two were somewhere near. During the Fairbanks tenure, Johnson was rumored to have an affair with Switzer's wife while Switzer was away on a recruiting trip. Then, Switzer supposedly returned unexpectedly and caught him in bed with Switzer's wife. Switzer blamed his (now ex) wife and not Johnson and tried to continue the friendship.While Fairbanks was coach OU was put on probation and forced to forfeit 9 games. Fairbanks left to go to New England and OU started a new "head coach" search. . Johnson was very upset when Switzer was named head coach instead of him. In 1979 Jimmy Johnson went to Oklahoma State University as head football coach. While at Oklahoma State, he brought in a number of excellent players with one goal in mind (Beating OU). Johnson went to the University of Miami in 1984. This left Les Miles as head coach. The probation didn't start until 1988/89 but the general rumor in Oklahoma was that most of the violations including payments for play by the OSU Posse Club and $100 handshakes occurred during Johnson's stay. Johnson was key in recruiting Thurman Thomas, and Barry Sanders. Anyway there was plenty of bad blood between OU and OSU. It didn't help that Oklahoma State pointed at one game a year. Their game against Oklahoma. Oklahoma State has won 19 games out of the 114 played against Oklahoma, in what OSU calls their biggest rivalry. OU says you have to win more than 19% of the games for it to be considered a rivalry and they consider the Texas Longhorns to be their "most important" game, for several reasons, mainly that the state of Texas was always extremely important recruiting for OU.

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Jan 15, 2017 13:33:10   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
I agree. Aikman also had a fire in his home that was "not considered suspicious" by the local fire department. As for Switzer, the hand gun had nothing to do with his being fired it was the "other" things and Aikman's constant disapproval of Switzer. Jones, Switzer and Johnson were all best friends in college at Arkansas and the hand gun was just the excuse (or final straw). Johnson and Switzer were best friends as both were assistant coaches under Jim Mackenzie. Chuck Fairbanks became OU's head coach. Prior to that Switzer, Johnson and another coach, I think Larry Lacewell were all drinking/party buddies and were inseparable. If you were at a club in those days and saw either Johnson, Switzer, or the other coach, the other two were somewhere near. During the Fairbanks tenure, Johnson was rumored to have an affair with Switzer's wife while Switzer was away on a recruiting trip. Then, Switzer supposedly returned unexpectedly and caught him in bed with Switzer's wife. Switzer blamed his (now ex) wife and not Johnson and tried to continue the friendship.While Fairbanks was coach OU was put on probation and forced to forfeit 9 games. Fairbanks left to go to New England and OU started a new "head coach" search. . Johnson was very upset when Switzer was named head coach instead of him. In 1979 Jimmy Johnson went to Oklahoma State University as head football coach. While at Oklahoma State, he brought in a number of excellent players with one goal in mind (Beating OU). Johnson went to the University of Miami in 1984. This left Les Miles as head coach. The probation didn't start until 1988/89 but the general rumor in Oklahoma was that most of the violations including payments for play by the OSU Posse Club and $100 handshakes occurred during Johnson's stay. Johnson was key in recruiting Thurman Thomas, and Barry Sanders. Anyway there was plenty of bad blood between OU and OSU. It didn't help that Oklahoma State pointed at one game a year. Their game against Oklahoma. Oklahoma State has won 19 games out of the 114 played against Oklahoma, in what OSU calls their biggest rivalry. OU says you have to win more than 19% of the games for it to be considered a rivalry and they consider the Texas Longhorns to be their "most important" game, for several reasons, mainly that the state of Texas was always extremely important recruiting for OU.
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That was kept a well kept secret about Switzer's wife. Owner Jerry Jones hates Jimmy Johnson, and he was told never to attend any ceremonies, or celebratory events of the Dallas Cowboys. Forever. Jimmy and Jerry both had high egos, and Jerry didn't particularly appreciate Jimmy stealing all the credit, for the success of the Cowboys. Back then.

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Jan 15, 2017 17:02:50   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
mas24 wrote:
That was kept a well kept secret about Switzer's wife. Owner Jerry Jones hates Jimmy Johnson, and he was told never to attend any ceremonies, or celebratory events of the Dallas Cowboys. Forever. Jimmy and Jerry both had high egos, and Jerry didn't particularly appreciate Jimmy stealing all the credit, for the success of the Cowboys. Back then.


I graduated from OU in 1985. I was fortunate to have a part time job at a Nisson dealership in Oklahoma City. Cindy Blake was our receptionist. She was dating Keith Jackson. She was also the sister of John Blake who was an assistant coach at OU and then head coach. So, I met Keith at work and we found that we had a couple of classes together. One was just before lunch. So we started eating lunch together. We generally ate at O'Connell's Irish Pub in Norman (diagonal from Owen Field (now Gaylord Family Oklahoma Memorial Stadium)). The first time we went there, we walked to the counter and ordered food. Keith's was brought to the counter first and he took his tray and sat down. When mine was ready, I took it and looked for Keith. He was sitting at a large table with a bunch of other guys all eating. He called me over and I found that it was Switzer, and a bunch of the football team (Keith Jackson, Brian Bosworth, Jamelle Holieway, and Derrick Shepard among others). I was in shock. Well a few weeks later, Keith had to run some errands and missed lunch. I went to O'Connells and got my food. I was looking for an empty table when I heard someone yell "hey Campbell, Over here!!" It was Switzer. Now a few years later, Switzer was coaching at Dallas and I was working for computer consulting for GE Capitol and sitting in a bar in Chicago O'Hare waiting on my flight. I hear someone yell "Hey, Dave Campbell, is that you?" It was Switzer on his way to some NFL meeting in NYC. This is why he was such a great recruiter, I don think he ever forgets a name or a face and makes everyone feel at home. Now he is still active in several small businesses in the Norman Oklahoma area.

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Jan 15, 2017 19:41:37   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
I graduated from OU in 1985. I was fortunate to have a part time job at a Nisson dealership in Oklahoma City. Cindy Blake was our receptionist. She was dating Keith Jackson. She was also the sister of John Blake who was an assistant coach at OU and then head coach. So, I met Keith at work and we found that we had a couple of classes together. One was just before lunch. So we started eating lunch together. We generally ate at O'Connell's Irish Pub in Norman (diagonal from Owen Field (now Gaylord Family Oklahoma Memorial Stadium)). The first time we went there, we walked to the counter and ordered food. Keith's was brought to the counter first and he took his tray and sat down. When mine was ready, I took it and looked for Keith. He was sitting at a large table with a bunch of other guys all eating. He called me over and I found that it was Switzer, and a bunch of the football team (Keith Jackson, Brian Bosworth, Jamelle Holieway, and Derrick Shepard among others). I was in shock. Well a few weeks later, Keith had to run some errands and missed lunch. I went to O'Connells and got my food. I was looking for an empty table when I heard someone yell "hey Campbell, Over here!!" It was Switzer. Now a few years later, Switzer was coaching at Dallas and I was working for computer consulting for GE Capitol and sitting in a bar in Chicago O'Hare waiting on my flight. I hear someone yell "Hey, Dave Campbell, is that you?" It was Switzer on his way to some NFL meeting in NYC. This is why he was such a great recruiter, I don think he ever forgets a name or a face and makes everyone feel at home. Now he is still active in several small businesses in the Norman Oklahoma area.
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Great story. Yes, Switzer was a great recruiter. And as mentioned previously, Oklahoma did not have any pro sports teams. So Switzer was King in Oklahoma, just as Nick Saban is in the State of Alabama, without pro teams. Brian Bosworth. Who could forget him during that era.

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Jan 15, 2017 20:09:12   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Green Bay wins over Dallas. 34-31..History will not be made this time around. Dallas, 13-3 regular season schedule was the best record in the NFC. The Green Bay vs Dallas games en route to a Championship have been nothing but great over the years. What about Tony Romo now?

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Jan 15, 2017 20:43:38   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
mas24 wrote:
Great story. Yes, Switzer was a great recruiter. And as mentioned previously, Oklahoma did not have any pro sports teams. So Switzer was King in Oklahoma, just as Nick Saban is in the State of Alabama, without pro teams. Brian Bosworth. Who could forget him during that era.


Going WAY back, my parents attended OU at the start of the Bud Wilkinson era.

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Jan 15, 2017 20:49:05   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
mas24 wrote:
Great story. Yes, Switzer was a great recruiter. And as mentioned previously, Oklahoma did not have any pro sports teams. So Switzer was King in Oklahoma, just as Nick Saban is in the State of Alabama, without pro teams. Brian Bosworth. Who could forget him during that era.


Brian was not only a great college player but was a great student. I had a couple of engineering classes with him. I thought it was hilarious that the NCAA was claiming that Brian was ineligible to play in the Orange Bowl because they claimed that he was given a car by a company. Of course he was given a car. His mother, father, and siblings and he were all officers in that oil company. They purchased or leased the SUV's through the company as a tax deal. But the NCAA figured that it was a corporate gift from some company wanting to use his name. By the way, he was nothing like the "Boz" off the field. He was just a normal, good student trying to earn his degree. Oh, and he didn't really need the scholarship, he had enough money and grades to go to college anywhere he wanted.

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Jan 15, 2017 21:20:01   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
Brian was not only a great college player but was a great student. I had a couple of engineering classes with him. I thought it was hilarious that the NCAA was claiming that Brian was ineligible to play in the Orange Bowl because they claimed that he was given a car by a company. Of course he was given a car. His mother, father, and siblings and he were all officers in that oil company. They purchased or leased the SUV's through the company as a tax deal. But the NCAA figured that it was a corporate gift from some company wanting to use his name. By the way, he was nothing like the "Boz" off the field. He was just a normal, good student trying to earn his degree. Oh, and he didn't really need the scholarship, he had enough money and grades to go to college anywhere he wanted.
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I saw Bosworth on ESPN TV being interviewed about his 30 for 30 Documentary that was completed about two years or more ago. He said he was misunderstood, and that the sports media portrayed him as some kind of wild, misbehaving rebel. And they never let up, because it was good ratings for TV. I missed that documentary. A friend said it was excellently done.

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Jan 15, 2017 23:10:46   #
whitewolfowner
 
Great game! For all the cowpuking cowgirls.........HA HA HA HA...........

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Jan 16, 2017 07:26:23   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
mas24 wrote:
I saw Bosworth on ESPN TV being interviewed about his 30 for 30 Documentary that was completed about two years or more ago. He said he was misunderstood, and that the sports media portrayed him as some kind of wild, misbehaving rebel. And they never let up, because it was good ratings for TV. I missed that documentary. A friend said it was excellently done.


A lot of the media thought/think that the Boz and Brian Bosworth are the same. (yes I know they are one person) but the Boz is more like a comic book character. It only existed when Brian is on the football field. When Brian is off the field and not playing his "persona", he is just a very intelligent, normal guy. Yes, he made quite a bit of money from his couple of years in the NFL. While he made some money playing for the Seahawks, it was just a drop in the bucket compared to what he was making from his families business and also from sound and intelligent investing. For instance, during one of his 2 years at Seattle, he was trash talking John Elway of Denver. The Denver fans ALL bought $15 t-shirts to wear to the game and around town to support the Broncos. They didn't realize that Brian owned the company that made the shirts, the copyright, and trade mark on the $15 shirts. Basically, the Boz was a marketing ploy to get other teams and fans to concentrate so much on him that they forgot about the other 21 starters for the Seahawks or prior to that, the Sooners. Just like when he got run over by Bo Jackson in the Raider game. Yes, he got run over, but he had already been told by his doctors (and the Seahawk team doctors) that he had the shoulders of a 60 year old. He also sued the NFL for not allowing "Linebackers" to wear numbers in the 40s (he wanted to wear his #44) and lost the suit. 3 years after he retired, the NFL decided to allow linebackers to wear numbers in the 40s. Mainly, I think Brian just enjoyed attempting to rub large institutions (like the NFL and the NCAA)'s noses in, what he considered, archaic or unneeded rules. He also did a lot of his antics for show and they were things that he, as "the Boz" was expected to do and, he Brian Bosworth, wouldn't even think of. So now, we see Kia commercials with him appearing with Bo Jackson, who, after their NFL careers, became friends. Brian even had/has a movie company and has made or appeared in several movies and TV shows, either playing "the Boz" or other fictional or movie characters. With Brian, the attitude is about business, with the "Boz" it is about show and what people expect of him. And Brian rides it all the way to the bank.

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Jan 16, 2017 09:15:07   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
Tony Romo will be most likely traded, now at age 37. He has been injured too many times resulting in surgeries and months of rehabilitation. You can't maintain a system and go to a Superbowl game with a Quarterback having continual injuries every year. Romo was playing sometimes less than 50% of the 16 regular season scheduled games.

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Jan 16, 2017 10:07:09   #
dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl
 
mas24 wrote:
Tony Romo will be most likely traded, now at age 37. He has been injured too many times resulting in surgeries and months of rehabilitation. You can't maintain a system and go to a Superbowl game with a Quarterback having continual injuries every year. Romo was playing sometimes less than 50% of the 16 regular season scheduled games.


True. Romo is a really good qb when he is healthy and on but he isn't much help when he is on injured reserve. And he is too expensive for them to keep as a (nor does he want to be) backup.
This is kind of the same situation the Minnesota Vikings are in with Bradford and Bridgewater. Bradford, who has had a history of injuries, has shown good judgement (well as good as you can expect with a line that at times look like they are on the other team) and in staying healthy regardless of the lack of up-front protection. Bridgewater is out for the indefinite future and, even when healthy, his numbers were not as good as Bradford's were given the lack of support, coming into a team with no preseason, etc. Even though Bradford is going to cost Minnesota more money, he has already shown something that Bridgewater won't have for a few more years and that is maturity and learning to take what you're given rather then trying to force something. Bradford has shown the ability to absorb hits, make long passes when needed and also to make short throws. Hopefully, the Vikings can spend their money on linemen, possibly a decent second round running back, Westbrook at wide receiver would make them totally dangerous if he drops far enough into the draft, and maybe some additional help on the defense. They seem to have fixed their kicking with the new kicker but their game can change from week to week and nothing is certain there. If they could pick up a solid backup QB off of trades or free agency, they could be good. This of course depends on how Bradford does in camp but he seems to have matured and he has always been very smart.

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Jan 16, 2017 12:36:56   #
maverickk41 Loc: Farmington New Mexico
 
Dallas Cowboys didn't make it past the cheeseheads, but they had an exceptional year with a rookie quarterback at the reins. The officiating was terrible for that game and also the KC/Pitt game. Have no fear Cowboys will be a force to reckon with again next year, Dak will have more experience and hopefully the coach that called the plays will be a little bit smarter.

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