Air travel and lithium batteries
Jan 12, 2017 10:16:10 #
MT Shooter wrote:
It's funny that with ALL the battery explosions and fires posted all over the internet, I have yet to see a single story of a camera battery fire anywhere. Just food for thought.
A lot of people that I know will use their laptops and cellphones while they are plugged into a charger, such as in a car when the phone is in a holder that is also a charger. From what I know it is not recommended that these devices be used while charging. Could be wrong about that, but that could explain a number of fires.
Jan 12, 2017 12:23:04 #
marki3rd wrote:
iPhone batteries haven't been removable for some time now. I'm guessing they can make the case slightly more compact that way, and Apple has never been interested in user-accessible parts; IIRC, inside the case of the original Mac had signatures of the designers, but most of us never saw them because the outside had a warning that opening the case would void the warranty.iPhones don't have removable batteries? All the cell phones I have ever owned (not Apple products) had removable batteries.
Jan 12, 2017 12:36:18 #
marki3rd wrote:
iPhones don't have removable batteries? All the cell phones I have ever owned (not Apple products) had removable batteries.
I had an I-Touch that the battery was soldered in...you can do it yourself or swap it into Apple for a replacement unit. Not cheap!
Jan 13, 2017 06:27:31 #
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
DaveO wrote:
I am a little confused. Where in the provided link is it stated all must be in carry-on?
There are two columns. One is for carry on and one is for checked.
Jan 13, 2017 06:34:19 #
billnikon wrote:
There are two columns. One is for carry on and one is for checked.
The confusion was that the OP posts a link and then goes on to state "All lithium batteries must be in carry on luggage and be individually isolated from other batteries." My question was where in the link does it state that.
I understand. Jan 13, 2017 07:45:01 #
Jan 13, 2017 08:50:25 #
mainshipper wrote:
Apparently there was a recent update to the TSA rules in the US regarding traveling with lithium batteries. See this link for details http://phmsa.dot.gov/safetravel/batteries. International looks similar. All lithium batteries must be in carry on luggage and be individually isolated from other batteries. Is anyone aware of any limits or exceptions to these processes?
Internationally all lithium batts must be in carry on, including small batts in phones and cameras and the like. All should have their terminals taped or be in separate plastic bags, sometimes both depending on where you are. Any number can be carried up to 100W, at which point only two per person (stricter in some places). No battery above 160W can be on an airplane.
Jan 13, 2017 09:20:38 #
mainshipper wrote:
Apparently there was a recent update to the TSA rules in the US regarding traveling with lithium batteries. See this link for details http://phmsa.dot.gov/safetravel/batteries. International looks similar. All lithium batteries must be in carry on luggage and be individually isolated from other batteries. Is anyone aware of any limits or exceptions to these processes?
Yes, I flew from Tampa to Trenton NJ a couple of months ago and, while it was a new rule, it wasn't a big deal. I carry my camera gear as a carry on anyway but I placed ALL of my batteries into a zip lock bag, placed my (what ever the max limit is on liquids) 1oz or 1.5 oz bottle and lens cloth in a second zip lock. I put all of my memory cards (except the memory cards and batteries that were physically in the cameras) into a 3rd zip lock. At the airport TSA x-ray, I paced my zip-locks into the bowl for manual inspection and then let the camera bag with the cameras go through the x-ray. The TSA agents seemed happy and there were no issues. One agent after the x-ray did take the cameras out and turn them on to make sure that they were "really" cameras but that was the extent of it. At the end I picked up the zip-locks and camera, replaced them into the bag, zipped it up and was on my way. Since I was prepared for the ordeal, I was actually one of the faster people through the line.
Jan 13, 2017 09:25:38 #
Ok, I'm still confused. Farther down in the list of regulations posted, it says that lithium ion batteries not installed are FORBIDDEN in carry on and allowed in checked luggage. I'm I misreading this or do my spare EN-EL15 Nikon batteries have to be
stored in checked luggage?!??
stored in checked luggage?!??
Jan 13, 2017 09:28:57 #
DaveO wrote:
I am a little confused. Where in the provided link is it stated all must be in carry-on?
The fourth item down on the chart. Loose spare batteries must be in carry-on bags, batteries installed in devices can be in checked luggage. It was explained to me by a Transport Canada safety officer that lithium batteries can over heat if they are shorted out by coming in contact with metal items or each other; batteries installed in devices will not do this. That is the reason for the stipulation on separately packaged lithium batteries in carry-ons.
Jan 13, 2017 09:30:01 #
saintsrest44 wrote:
Ok, I'm still confused. Farther down in the list of regulations posted, it says that lithium ion batteries not installed are FORBIDDEN in carry on and allowed in checked luggage. I'm I misreading this or do my spare EN-EL15 Nikon batteries have to be
stored in checked luggage?!??
stored in checked luggage?!??
You misread it.
Jan 13, 2017 09:42:37 #
Jeebus! I sure did! Somebody give the old guy a nap, eh? Related question: if the batteries have to be separated as one person suggests, if I keep the protective cap on my spares and put them in my ThinkTank 4 battery canvas case, will that be enough separation?
Jan 13, 2017 09:54:35 #
saintsrest44 wrote:
Jeebus! I sure did! Somebody give the old guy a nap, eh? Related question: if the batteries have to be separated as one person suggests, if I keep the protective cap on my spares and put them in my ThinkTank 4 battery canvas case, will that be enough separation?
Yes. All you need to do is isolate the terminals to prevent shorting. You can even use tape. Most of these rules were not directed at camera batteries, which have recessed contacts and are difficult to short unless done deliberately. The rules were directed at the AA and AAA type of rechargeable lithium batteries.
Jan 13, 2017 10:04:35 #
mcveed wrote:
The fourth item down on the chart. Loose spare batteries must be in carry-on bags, batteries installed in devices can be in checked luggage. It was explained to me by a Transport Canada safety officer that lithium batteries can over heat if they are shorted out by coming in contact with metal items or each other; batteries installed in devices will not do this. That is the reason for the stipulation on separately packaged lithium batteries in carry-ons.
No offense,but what is confusing about my statement? I get it. I understand it. My point was that a link was posted and the OP did not,according to his observation,read or understand the link. The end.
Jan 13, 2017 10:06:12 #
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