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Jan 13, 2017 08:30:44   #
NormanTheGr8 Loc: Racine, Wisconsin
 
PixelStan77 wrote:
The bottom line it has to do with their return on investment with the number of units they can sell.


Also if they made one too good it could hurt their DSLR markets sales

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Jan 13, 2017 08:36:51   #
ciclista Loc: Nashville, TN
 
I love my G3 X. I stick it and a beanbag tripod in a fanny pack and I have everything I need. I also have a 70D with several lenses but for hiking and walking or any time I want to travel light the G3 X is my go to camera.

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Jan 13, 2017 09:00:50   #
banjoboy Loc: Austin, TX
 
I initially replaced my Sony RX100i with a Lumix LX100. The Sony just didn't fit my hand well although the images were pretty good. The LX100 had focus issues, so it was returned, and it was difficult to pick another one that had what I wanted. I ended up with teh Canon G5X, which, as it turns out, is pretty good for my use. I'm not a "long zoom" shooter - would rather have a faster lens with a 3-4x zoom. Other than slow RAW write times (i.e., delay between shots when RAW is used) it does a fairly decent job. It's not a classical P/S as it won't fit in my jeans pocket, but a belt loop case solves that problem. Hope this info is useful to someone.

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Jan 13, 2017 09:06:37   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
With all the great point and shoots out there why are you hung up on canon?

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Jan 13, 2017 09:54:02   #
Had2 Loc: Long Island, NY
 
speters wrote:
Canon has the SX50! (No WI FI or 4k video)


The SX50 is like a small DSLR. I want something I can stick in a jacket pocket like the PowerShot SX720 HS (40x zoom!)

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Jan 13, 2017 09:58:55   #
Had2 Loc: Long Island, NY
 
davyboy wrote:
With all the great point and shoots out there why are you hung up on canon?


I've been a Canon guy for over 30 years, but, hey, if there's a point & shoot that meets my spec, tell me what it is, man.

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Jan 13, 2017 10:11:04   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
The Canon SX60 is decent Bridge Camera, focal length to 1365mm. It has to be carried like a DSLR though. About $500 New. Shoots RAW, has a viewfinder, and hot shoe for an external flash unit.

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Jan 13, 2017 10:11:08   #
Had2 Loc: Long Island, NY
 
banjoboy wrote:
I initially replaced my Sony RX100i with a Lumix LX100. The Sony just didn't fit my hand well although the images were pretty good. The LX100 had focus issues, so it was returned, and it was difficult to pick another one that had what I wanted. I ended up with teh Canon G5X, which, as it turns out, is pretty good for my use. I'm not a "long zoom" shooter - would rather have a faster lens with a 3-4x zoom. Other than slow RAW write times (i.e., delay between shots when RAW is used) it does a fairly decent job. It's not a classical P/S as it won't fit in my jeans pocket, but a belt loop case solves that problem. Hope this info is useful to someone.
I initially replaced my Sony RX100i with a Lumix L... (show quote)


I appreciate your input. The G5X is a larger form factor than I had in mind. The G7X Mk II is more in line with the size I'm shooting for.

BTW, there's an interesting site that lets you easily compare cameras head-to-head, feature for feature, including photographic size comparisons: www.cameradecision.com

I generally shoot with a Canon EOS 70D, but my current pocketable travel camera is a PowerShot SX210 IS, which is a fairly competent little camera, but it nevertheless leaves something to be desired on several levels. I've had that one for years, and I figured by now, there would be more improvements in this sector, but there are not that many.

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Jan 13, 2017 10:27:45   #
Had2 Loc: Long Island, NY
 
JPL wrote:
This is about the easiest question to answer that I have ever seen on UHH. Canon does not make this camera because it is bad business for them. They like to sell more expensive dslr cameras which they make much more profit from when everything is included, like lenses etc. It is only about profit. I think Canon would have no problem to make the kind of camera you want. But they would loose money on it, unless it would be sold for $5000 or more.


The PowerShot G7X Mk II is $700. That's more than the EOS T5i Rebel. I doubt that Canon is selling the G7X at a loss.

Car manufacturers sell a lot of SUV's and pickups, but that doesn't mean they will not make compacts available.

I have a DSLR, but want a compact P&S that packs more power, so you're saying Canon does not know how to make profit from a smaller camera?! Interesting. You may be right, but I think there is a significant market for the camera spec I have suggested. As I said, I already have a DSLR (several in fact), but since I like high quality images, I, and very probably many other DSLR users would like to option of a very portable camera that offers more than mass market point & shoots. I haven't done a market study on this. I'm just venting frustration after doing some on line shopping to replace my current point & shoot.

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Jan 13, 2017 10:29:17   #
jwn Loc: SOUTHEAST GEORGIA USA
 
With cell phones the market for point and shoot is disappearing, no future.

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Jan 13, 2017 10:40:16   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
Had2 wrote:
I've been a Canon guy for over 30 years, but, hey, if there's a point & shoot that meets my spec, tell me what it is, man.


Panasonic😐

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Jan 13, 2017 10:56:08   #
Edia Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Pure and simple! Marketing. Nikon and Canon make more profit on their DSLRs and lenses than they do on their Point and Shoot cameras and so they want to sell more DSLRs and lenses. Better Point and Shoot cameras in their lineup would increase sales of point and shoots at the determent of DSLR sales. Panasonic and Sony do not sell as many DSLRs as Nikon or Canon and so they can afford to make better Point and Shoots.

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Jan 13, 2017 10:58:41   #
lhardister Loc: Brownsville, TN
 
Had2 wrote:
Traveling and touring with family sometimes inhibits lugging a DSLR, and it would be nice to be able to minimize the compromise of using a camera with more limited capabilities. A cell phone camera is ok in a pinch, but it is much too limiting.

I would like to see a travel point & shoot that has these features, somewhat in order of preference:
1" to 1.5" sensor
RAW support
moderately fast 25x or greater optical zoom
image stabilization
articulating touch screen
reasonable battery life
built-in WiFi
4k video

Canon has no competing model to the Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS100, however, I have not been able to determine why Canon cannot or will not put a zoom lens similar to the one on the PowerShot SX720 HS (although a bit slow), onto something like its G7 X Mark II. There may be technology and price point issues, however, I would think that a small powerful pocket camera would attract a sizeable swath of serious photographers.
Traveling and touring with family sometimes inhibi... (show quote)


Had2, I am in complete agreement with you. For more than a decade now, I have tried to wean my wife off her old Kodak 8mpx point & shoot. I did much shopping and research and came up with a list of specs that practically mirrors your list. I always included in my list a decent EVF, which I would place above Wi-Fi in terms of desirability. I favor Canon because over the years I have developed a basic familiarity with the Canon menu system. After much agonizing, I compromised and purchased a used Panasonic zs60 just before Christmas from B&H for approximately $300. I think we will enjoy the camera and utilize it, but I see it as essentially a stop-gap solution until something more like our "ideal" point and shoot becomes available.

Best regards,

lhardister

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Jan 13, 2017 11:14:01   #
74images Loc: Los Angeles, California
 
speters wrote:
Canon has the SX50! (No WI FI or 4k video)


Used to Have the SX 50... It was Discontinued for the SX 60 in 2014

74images

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Jan 13, 2017 11:17:57   #
74images Loc: Los Angeles, California
 
digit-up wrote:
Canons' sx-50 is reputedly "Not-So-Good". And I've known a few owners who were not all that happy with em..


I've Happy with Mine Since February 2014...& Have a Few Gripes with the SX 50, But Within the 3 Years I had the SX 50 its done Good for me

74images

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