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Jan 7, 2017 12:36:06   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
Haydon wrote:
Unfortunately wide ranges in focal length with a zoom like the 16-300mm don't offer a free lunch.They usually show signs of being "soft" on the extremes. I personally will never own one but soft images/sharp images are subjective and many are quite satisfied with their results.

Third party lenses never have the original design algorithms shared with them (with rare exception) and subsequently the lenses for each manufacturer are created by "reverse engineering" and shortcomings of this system are evident. Some of these problems have been solved with unique software/hardware like Sigma's dock effectively but fine tuning frequently can occur. Also third party lenses do not hold their value as well despite sometimes being significantly cheaper.

I'm not trying to start a brand war in preference as many are quite satisified with their choice but careful considerations need to be made when buying third party lenses and whether you're willing to compromise in IQ with extreme focal lengths in zoom lenses.

Finally I'd also include at Canon's fine 15-85mm lens. Its constantly received high recommendations for a walkaround lens.
Unfortunately wide ranges in focal length with a z... (show quote)


Funny - I see highly followed photographers like Matt Granger using lots of Tamron and Sigma lenses. Wonder why they would settle for such crappy third party lenses?

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Jan 7, 2017 12:53:05   #
JerryS4605
 
Thanks lots of information for me to digest.

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Jan 7, 2017 12:53:30   #
JerryS4605
 
Thanks for your input.

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Jan 7, 2017 12:53:57   #
Haydon
 
leftj wrote:
Funny - I see highly followed photographers like Matt Granger using lots of Tamron and Sigma lenses. Wonder why they would settle for such crappy third party lenses?


It's called marketing :) I see plenty of complaint on forums that seem to outweigh the positives, but then again focus, sharpness build quality is subjective. I do like Granger btw and how helpful he is to budding photographers. It's a personal choice supporting third party or name brand. I was just stating my opinion like so many others here do.

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Jan 7, 2017 12:57:36   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
Haydon wrote:
It's called marketing :) I see plenty of complaint on forums that seem to outweigh the positives, but then again focus, sharpness build quality is subjective. I do like Granger btw and how helpful he is to budding photographers.


Perhaps but why would they trash their reputation by using an inferior product?

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Jan 7, 2017 13:49:17   #
JerryS4605
 
For some like me it may be the money. Sure I would love top of the line camera and lens or glass to match it but facts are my knowledge and skills needed to utilize them would be lost. I love to take pictures how good they turn out well to me they arevfine to others they may be garbage. I an not here to argue or judge others opinions but to get input to help me makeup my mind on what works for me and my situation. Each brand has lots pros and cons with them and each person here has their reasons for suggesting a particular lens or brand. Thanks for all the suggestions and logic behind each one.

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Jan 7, 2017 14:07:46   #
Bill Emmett Loc: Bow, New Hampshire
 
For a non-published photographer, wishing to take such a wide variety of subject the Tamron 16-300mm with VC is exactly what you should be looking at very hard. I shoot Canon, and own the Canon EF-S 18-135mm STM lens, but for a vacation, or cruise I take the Tamron 18-270mm VC for my 7D MII. It gives me the wide angle, for those expansive old buildings, and the zoom range for close-up shots of the heads of old statues. Keep in mind also, Tamron has a 6 year warranty on all their lenses. So, if during the time you use the lens, it becomes a little "soft", just send it back to Tamron for calibration, and repair. You only have 1 year on Canon products. When you start zeroing in on specific subjects, your needs will change, being either sharper images, or longer, better zooms. But for now, the Tamron will get your feet wet from wide angle shooting thru long zooms.

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Jan 7, 2017 14:44:23   #
JerryS4605
 
Thanks

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Jan 7, 2017 16:03:41   #
RickSr Loc: St. Paul, MN
 
I have an 80D which I have been using with the EF-S 18-135 IS Nano USM and getting OK results. Today I picked up a used EF-S 15-85 IS USM and the results definitely indicate that this will now be my standard lens. I'm very happy with the sharpness of the images.

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Jan 7, 2017 16:04:08   #
Bill Emmett Loc: Bow, New Hampshire
 
Hello, I last saw that lens on sale $499 at Adorama.

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Jan 7, 2017 19:09:53   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
IMO, The 80D is the best Canon crop frame that can tolerate small aperture lenses like the super zooms. It is also my opinion that the super zooms have perhaps benefited the most from recent lens/camera technologies. They are becoming more viable with each new lens/body release !

Old school die-hards will of course stick their noses up at them.....(the super zooms)

In a testing of superzooms that I have seen, the Tamron 16-300 came out on top.

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Jan 7, 2017 23:05:29   #
JerryS4605
 
Thanks forv he reply

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Jan 7, 2017 23:23:42   #
Sphinxman
 
"I recently bought a Canon 80 D and want a good everyday lens that will do for a hobbiest. I shoot all kinds of photos."

I think the Tamron 16-300 fits the bill. After you use it and hopefully find a specific type of photography you're more interested in, you can invest in "prime glass". Just my opinion.

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Jan 7, 2017 23:31:55   #
JerryS4605
 
Thank you for the input.

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Jan 8, 2017 01:55:51   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
JerryS4605 wrote:
Not knowing much about which lens is better I am turning to you all for input. I recently bought a Canon 80 D and want a good everyday lens that will do for a hobbiest. I shoot all kinds of photos. I cannot afford professional level glass I am looking at
1. Tamrom 16-300 F\3.5-6.3 PZD 67mm Dill

2. Canon EFS 18-135mm IS 67mm(kit type lens)

Which is the better of the two I am simple minded lol so Help me out with all the technical jargon please


As a personal thought for a hobby photographer, Go with the Tamron.

My reasoning is that it works very well to start and has a very large range. In the future when you have more funds availably to you, check out what type of shooting you do the most and seem to favor, (See what mm length or range for what you do the most). Then look into more a professional grade lens in that range or even go for a prime if that fits your bill.

For example, with a couple zooms used for high school basketball, I find that I tend to take a bunch of 20 to 30 mm shots when under the basket so if that was about all I was expecting to do I get a lens around 24mm. For football I use my Sigma f2.8, 70-200mm and find that just about 3/4 of my shots are right around 100 to 135mm in length. Naturally, if I got a specialty lens for football, it would be right around that size. (Since I have to cover all over the place, I'm sticking with what I presently have, but you get what I mean.)

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