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Jun 7, 2012 05:55:12   #
Millismote Loc: Massachusetts
 
Shooting pictures of birds on the feeder and my 50D stopped working. The LCD message was Error #50, unable to shoot. Turn power switch off and on to fix problem. That was no help as was turning on power switch and removing the battery. Called Canon tech support and after discussion was advised to send it in for repair, electronic circuit failure. While talking with the tech I mentioned that I want the Canon 70-200 f4 L is lens but didn't like the price. He said the following: if your mainly shooting outdoors in sunlight. as long as you keep the shutter speed above the maximum zoom length ie zoom =200, shutter=1/200 or greater the stability doesn't do much. Is he right about this because the difference in price is significant.

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Jun 7, 2012 06:33:57   #
RavRob Loc: Oromocto, NB
 
Not the first time I hear this. Not only valid for outdoors, good for any situation. However, it might be difficult to keep you SS faster than your focal length indoors if using a large lens or zoom.

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Jun 7, 2012 07:35:27   #
brucewells Loc: Central Kentucky
 
Never heard it stated that way, but it makes perfect sense.

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Jun 7, 2012 09:46:13   #
snowbear
 
That's just the guideline for hand holding - shutter equals 1/focal length. I think some folks get into confused with zooms thinking it's the FL they are set at, not the lens max.

IS can be helpful in low light so you can get a couple stops lower, for those that may have trouble holding a larger or heavier lens, and we who may not have had enough caffeine to start the day. ;)

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Jun 7, 2012 09:54:22   #
les_stockton Loc: Eastern Oklahoma
 
RavRob wrote:
it might be difficult to keep you SS faster than your focal length indoors if using a large lens or zoom.


Also, if shooting at night (like at a night football game), then it might help to have IS. Unless you have ISO that is higher than 1600.

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Jun 8, 2012 06:21:22   #
Blake Loc: Alfred NY
 
RavRob wrote:
Not the first time I hear this. Not only valid for outdoors, good for any situation. However, it might be difficult to keep you SS faster than your focal length indoors if using a large lens or zoom.


Welcome RavRob,
Nice avatar

Blake

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Jun 8, 2012 06:30:13   #
Millismote Loc: Massachusetts
 
Thank you all for the comments

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Jun 8, 2012 07:19:59   #
RavRob Loc: Oromocto, NB
 
Thanks Blake

RR

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Jun 8, 2012 08:09:16   #
oldtool2 Loc: South Jersey
 
Millismote wrote:
Shooting pictures of birds on the feeder and my 50D stopped working. The LCD message was Error #50, unable to shoot. Turn power switch off and on to fix problem. That was no help as was turning on power switch and removing the battery. Called Canon tech support and after discussion was advised to send it in for repair, electronic circuit failure. While talking with the tech I mentioned that I want the Canon 70-200 f4 L is lens but didn't like the price. He said the following: if your mainly shooting outdoors in sunlight. as long as you keep the shutter speed above the maximum zoom length ie zoom =200, shutter=1/200 or greater the stability doesn't do much. Is he right about this because the difference in price is significant.
Shooting pictures of birds on the feeder and my 50... (show quote)


I have been shooting and took a camera off the tripod. I often forget to switch the IS on at that point. Maybe a few minutes latter I realize it and switch it on. When looking at my photos I normally don’t see any difference, but I normally am shooting at 1/500 or faster. Never really thought about it but could this be the reason? Sounds like he is being honest with you.

Jim D

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Jun 8, 2012 08:17:14   #
micro Loc: Texas
 
The guideline that I learned, well before the advent of VR or IS, was to try to use a shutter speed equal to, or greater than the lens focal length (or use a tripod). This is a helpful guideline but not a guarentee. It all depends on how stable "you" can hold the camera. My position is the VR/IS is a valuable saftey net.

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Jun 8, 2012 08:56:24   #
photopop44 Loc: Roun Drock, Texas
 
I have been shooting and took a camera off the tripod. I often forget to switch the IS on at that point. Maybe a few minutes latter I realize it and switch it on. When looking at my photos I normally don’t see any difference, but I normally am shooting at 1/500 or faster. Never really thought about it but could this be the reason? Sounds like he is being honest with you.

Jim D

Something I don't understand, what is the point of turning it off ever? Even when there is no advantage, no viberation. Does it require energy or have some adverse effect on the picture?

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Jun 8, 2012 09:19:32   #
carlreno2
 
In the days of the film cameras there wasn't anything call IS or VC that came to birth with digital. We used that same rule of thumb concerning maximum focal length and shutter speed as stated. Worked well all the years I shot film.

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Jun 8, 2012 09:35:52   #
oldtool2 Loc: South Jersey
 
photopop44 wrote:
I have been shooting and took a camera off the tripod. I often forget to switch the IS on at that point. Maybe a few minutes latter I realize it and switch it on. When looking at my photos I normally don’t see any difference, but I normally am shooting at 1/500 or faster. Never really thought about it but could this be the reason? Sounds like he is being honest with you.

Jim D

Something I don't understand, what is the point of turning it off ever? Even when there is no advantage, no viberation. Does it require energy or have some adverse effect on the picture?
I have been shooting and took a camera off the tri... (show quote)


I have always read and been told to shut it off when using a tripod. If memory serves me right it has to do with acurate focusing when using AF. Using it slows down the AF on a tripod or monopod.

Shooting as I do my question is:

Why turn it on at all if I am shooting above 1/400? ( My longest lens.)

Jim D

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Jun 8, 2012 10:08:43   #
George Kravis
 
Yeah, shutter = 1/FL and IS are all good but nothing beats mounting on tripod.

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Jun 8, 2012 10:20:49   #
marcomarks Loc: Ft. Myers, FL
 
Millismote wrote:
Shooting pictures of birds on the feeder and my 50D stopped working. The LCD message was Error #50, unable to shoot. Turn power switch off and on to fix problem. That was no help as was turning on power switch and removing the battery. Called Canon tech support and after discussion was advised to send it in for repair, electronic circuit failure. While talking with the tech I mentioned that I want the Canon 70-200 f4 L is lens but didn't like the price. He said the following: if your mainly shooting outdoors in sunlight. as long as you keep the shutter speed above the maximum zoom length ie zoom =200, shutter=1/200 or greater the stability doesn't do much. Is he right about this because the difference in price is significant.
Shooting pictures of birds on the feeder and my 50... (show quote)


Take the memory card out and see if the same error code comes up before sending it away. I'm not saying that's the problem but it at least eliminates the possibility.

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