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Nov 28, 2016 11:27:31   #
photo jimmy
 
Would like to expand to more close-up/macro. ??? Add a Macro lens OR sell my canon 70-200 f/4L and canon 400 f/5.6L and go to the canon 100-400 mark2..... Camera bodies 7D mark2 & canon 60D. I like the idea of one lens.. I do a lot of birding and half to all day mild hikes... I'm sure this is a common question but will sellers remorse happen... Thank You all & Blessings.

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Nov 28, 2016 11:37:45   #
rwilson1942 Loc: Houston, TX
 
photo jimmy wrote:
Would like to expand to more close-up/macro. ??? Add a Macro lens OR sell my canon 70-200 f/4L and canon 400 f/5.6L and go to the canon 100-400 mark2..... Camera bodies 7D mark2 & canon 60D. I like the idea of one lens.. I do a lot of birding and half to all day mild hikes... I'm sure this is a common question but will sellers remorse happen... Thank You all & Blessings.


If you want to do true macro you will want a macro lens.
Most of the lenses like the 100-400mm zoom will do decent close up but only to 1:4 or 1:5.
Visit the true macro photography section here for lots of good info on macro photography, lenses and technique.

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Nov 28, 2016 11:47:43   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
photo jimmy wrote:
Would like to expand to more close-up/macro. ??? Add a Macro lens OR sell my canon 70-200 f/4L and canon 400 f/5.6L and go to the canon 100-400 mark2..... Camera bodies 7D mark2 & canon 60D. I like the idea of one lens.. I do a lot of birding and half to all day mild hikes... I'm sure this is a common question but will sellers remorse happen... Thank You all & Blessings.


The idea of only one lens is a good but expensive one for you ! .......Much cheaper/easier is to keep the 400 5.6 for birds ...... and add a 1.4X and/or a Canon 500D close up lens to your 70-200.

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Nov 28, 2016 12:17:55   #
Bill Emmett Loc: Bow, New Hampshire
 
I wouldn't sell anything. You can pick up either a Canon EF 100mm f2.8 Macro, or EF 100mm F2.8 L IS Macro USM. There is also a EF-S 60mm f2.8 Macro USM. These lenses also double as a really good portrait lens. There is also a EF 180mm f3.5 L Macro, which is quiet good. Doing Macro, and shooting birds is a awful spread of subjects, so if you're looking a one lens shoots all it will be a expensive proposition. None of the Canon long telephotos are actual Macro lenses.

B

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Nov 28, 2016 14:03:29   #
photo jimmy
 
Thanks all. I thought that what I could sell the other two for, plus what I would pay for macro lens would be about even. Any thoughts on Tokina 100 f/2.8????? Will go to macro section.

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Nov 28, 2016 15:59:14   #
SX2002 Loc: Adelaide, South Australia
 
Brilliant lens if you want to do true macro...also a great, sharp 150mm lens for other things...


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Nov 28, 2016 16:25:16   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
imagemeister wrote:
The idea of only one lens is a good but expensive one for you ! .......Much cheaper/easier is to keep the 400 5.6 for birds ...... and add a 1.4X and/or a Canon 500D close up lens to your 70-200.


Canon 70-200 f4L W/tamron SP 1.4X and Canon close up lens .......Canon60D


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Nov 28, 2016 16:30:15   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
photo jimmy wrote:
Thanks all. I thought that what I could sell the other two for, plus what I would pay for macro lens would be about even. Any thoughts on Tokina 100 f/2.8????? Will go to macro section.


It is really hard to find a bad macro lens. I have used the older Tamron 90 f2.5 - a great lens. I now have the older Tokina 100 2.8 IF lens - only goes to 1:2 The newer Tokina non-IF lens goes to 1:1 . The latest Canon and Nikon 100 macros are IF also.

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Nov 28, 2016 20:19:59   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Add an EF 25mm extension tube to the 70-200L. Don't sell anything.

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Nov 28, 2016 20:52:31   #
SX2002 Loc: Adelaide, South Australia
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Add an EF 25mm extension tube to the 70-200L. Don't sell anything.


Just out of curiosity, how do you select the macro ratio with this set up...e,g; 1:1, 1:2, etc...

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Nov 28, 2016 21:46:36   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
imagemeister wrote:
Canon 70-200 f4L W/tamron SP 1.4X and Canon close up lens .......Canon60D


really good

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Nov 29, 2016 00:07:27   #
Haydon
 
SX2002 wrote:
Just out of curiosity, how do you select the macro ratio with this set up...e,g; 1:1, 1:2, etc...


Unfortunately you can't.

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Nov 29, 2016 00:23:02   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
imagemeister wrote:
Canon 70-200 f4L W/tamron SP 1.4X and Canon close up lens .......Canon60D


Very, very nice, Sir!

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Nov 29, 2016 05:03:05   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Haydon wrote:
Unfortunately you can't.
To expand, the tube change the position of the rear of the lens relative to the sensor. You lose infinity and gain a shorter minimum focus distance. A sharp lens like any of the EF 70-200s can now focus much closer to the subject allowing more of the subject (flower, insect, coin, ect) to fill the sensor frame.

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Nov 29, 2016 08:34:22   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
photo jimmy wrote:
Would like to expand to more close-up/macro. ??? Add a Macro lens OR sell my canon 70-200 f/4L and canon 400 f/5.6L and go to the canon 100-400 mark2..... Camera bodies 7D mark2 & canon 60D. I like the idea of one lens.. I do a lot of birding and half to all day mild hikes... I'm sure this is a common question but will sellers remorse happen... Thank You all & Blessings.

A true macro lens is a prime (one focal length) with ability to use a larger aperture (typically f/2.8). It is specialized to get good images from relatively close up. It is also good for other more "general" usages. A zoom lens can get good closeups, but the depth to which they can go is somewhat limited. So for doing macro, it is best to get a true macro lens.

The other part of your question is about having one lens for everything. While it might be more convenient, you risk losing image quality. Zoom lenses tend not to be equally sharp over the entire range of focal lengths. This is why recommendations for best quality images include having zooms with a shorter range of focal lengths as well as the ability to use a larger aperture. It is easier to produce a lens that has a greater degree of sharpness throughout its range when that range is limited. A lot of people are very happy with the super-zooms, and they have been improving, so you may very well be happy with one. But it is important to understand the limitations of such a lens.

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