The Muslim murderers of 9/11 hijacked airliners full of fuel and used them as cruise missiles. That day, I saw their attack as an act of genius and estimated they did it for less than a million bucks. (My opinion was never expressed, I would have been killed if I had.) Because those cruise missiles were owned by airline companies, businesses chartered and operated in LawyerLandia, the attack was a wonderland of torts (a wrongful act or an infringement of a right leading to civil legal liability). The legal liability was infinite and the court cases would have outlasted the sun.
My understanding is that the victims were compensated rather handsomely to agree to not sue, the cost of that compensation being a vanishingly tiny fraction of the estimated costs of the lawsuits. It seemed like a good idea at the time.
So, this had nothing to do with long standing "Democrat" largess, it was a practical matter.
toma1940 wrote:
G.W. Bush started an illegal war with Iraq - a fact. WMD was not found - a fact, so Bush/Cheney deserve every bit of the anger and wrath they receive. Before Bush, WMD was defined as nuclear weapons, not chemical, biological, etc. The US provided Saddam Hussein chemical weapons and Rumsfeld was the US representative who met with Saddam with the okay.
Just to be fair, Bush didn't lie about this.
If needs be, look up the definition of "lie."
Bush acted on the same information every other member of the UN Security Council did, and every one of them said Iraq had WMDs. They didn't act on anything from Bush or the US, they all have their own intel systems, and they all came to the same conclusion.
The war wasn't illegal - it was properly voted on; even Hillary Clinton voted for the war.
As for the definition of "WMD":
"Originally coined in reference to aerial bombing with chemical explosives, since World War II it has come to refer to large-scale weaponry of other technologies, such as chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapon_of_mass_destruction
DaveO wrote:
Yes,that totally Dem Congress is killing us!
It may as well be Dem controlled, for all the spine the GOP has had.
Big Bill wrote:
It may as well be Dem controlled, for all the spine the GOP has had.
I'm trying to imagine how well it will function after either one takes office. I'm sure we'll have a new found respect.
Cykdelic wrote:
Who can forget "we must pass it to find out what's in it"!
I personally believe that the Congress should be held to the same rules as public company business executives.....they sign financial documents personally verifying their validity. Thus, Congress should only be allowed to vote on ANY bill after signing documents saying they read the fcuking bill!
I wasn't going to bring up the ACA, but since you did...
She was telling the truth.
I actually read a large part of the bill; it was more of an outline than a fleshed out bill.
There are so many "The Secretary Shall..." parts that the purpose wasn't actually laid out. We have seen how the Secretaries Sebelius and Burwell have defined the act since its passage. Literally, until it was passed, there was no way to know what it would mean, even if any lawmaker had even read it.
I think he forgot the life insurance policy the service members have, I think it's over 350K now.
Cykdelic
Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
Big Bill wrote:
I wasn't going to bring up the ACA, but since you did...
She was telling the truth.
I actually read a large part of the bill; it was more of an outline than a fleshed out bill.
There are so many "The Secretary Shall..." parts that the purpose wasn't actually laid out. We have seen how the Secretaries Sebelius and Burwell have defined the act since its passage. Literally, until it was passed, there was no way to know what it would mean, even if any lawmaker had even read it.
I wasn't going to bring up the ACA, but since you ... (
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Same here...I read both versions and had the same reaction. Further, i noted the multiple tax increases in the bill and brought them up to an Illinois senator and our congressional rep prior to the vote......both insisted I must be mistaken!
Cykdelic wrote:
Same here...I read both versions and had the same reaction. Further, i noted the multiple tax increases in the bill and brought them up to an Illinois senator and our congressional rep prior to the vote......both insisted I must be mistaken!
Since they hadn't read it, they had no idea what might be in it.
Not one senator or congressman/woman read it.
Cykdelic
Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
Big Bill wrote:
Since they hadn't read it, they had no idea what might be in it.
Not one senator or congressman/woman read it.
A fact which to me is the literal definition of negligence, and should be a crime,
Of course when you know everything, you don't need any directions
DaveO wrote:
Yes,they should also print instructions on the bottom of boots to tell people how to empty the pee out.
GeneS wrote:
That's why we vote back in to office the same Politicians we bitch about, every election.
Why doesn't the ballot say incumbent.
If you don't know who your incumbents are, you really have no business voting for that office or even touching a ballot.
I seriously doubt Rush Limbaugh authored this. The numbers are obviously incorrect; especially the pension information. And they DO pay into social security and receive SS benefits when they reach retirement age.
I like the comment that 90% give the other 10% a bad name! Probably more like 98% give the other 2% a bad name, however.
I know who the incumbents are, but I'd bet over 95% of the voters don't
skylane5sp wrote:
If you don't know who your incumbents are, you really have no business voting for that office or even touching a ballot.
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