Ok,I'm an idiot (Page 4): I flew across the Atlantic in a Viscount back in 1960. We hit bad air pockets. The plane would drop like a stone for a couple of hundred feet and then smack...

repleo Loc: Boston

LFingar wrote:

Given his avatar, a WWII vintage Lancaster bomber, my guess is that he did, or possibly still does, fly a Vickers Viscount. That's an old British 4 engine turboprop airliner. First flew in '48. Same year I was born, and, like me, well past it's prime!

I flew across the Atlantic in a Viscount back in 1960. We hit bad air pockets. The plane would drop like a stone for a couple of hundred feet and then smack like we hit concrete. A Catholic priest on the flight started shouting out the Rosary at the top of his voice and scared the **** out of everybody.
I guess it worked - we survived.

Macronaut Loc: Redondo Beach,Ca.

How can one not include "any" device capable of capturing an image? I have seen numerous great photos taken with really crappy equipment. They were not of higher quality but, simply "better" than much of what is produced by top of the line equipment. My equipment is of high quality and so are my crappy images.

Here's but one good example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktv7I_yM0qQ

Macronaut Loc: Redondo Beach,Ca.

viscountdriver wrote:

I like thinking outside the box and as a consequence I get shouted at a lot so here is a chance to have another go.
I think photos taken with a cell phone should not be shown on this forum. They are not cameras and the operator needs to show minimum skill in using them.

I do not think you are an idiot but, you may need to venture a bit farther out of your box.

Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI

viscountdriver wrote:

I like thinking outside the box and as a consequence I get shouted at a lot so here is a chance to have another go.
I think photos taken with a cell phone should not be shown on this forum.

(Insert yelling here).

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

BebuLamar wrote:

Why aren't they cameras? And why you think taking pictures with a phone is any easier than a profesional camera like the Canon 1DX? I have no problem using any high end cameras but I do have problems using the damn phone. Just can't make it does what I want it to do.

Vladimir200 Loc: Beaumont, Ca.

firtree wrote:

Personally, I think a photo is a photo, regardless of the equipment used. I have seen quite a few cell phone shots that were better than what I have gotten with my camera and was surprised to learn that they were taken with a cell phone because the quality (great lighting, no noise, etc.) was so good. I think it is perfectly fine to submit them to this forum. You have to shoot with what you have, if all you have is a cell phone, why be excluded? Just one humble opinion.

Couldn't say it better.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

Some of the best pics of my grandkids were taken by my daughter on her cell phone.

JR45 Loc: Montgomery County, TX

viscountdriver wrote:

I like thinking outside the box and as a consequence I get shouted at a lot so here is a chance to have another go.
I think photos taken with a cell phone should not be shown on this forum. They are not cameras and the operator needs to show minimum skill in using them.

In the 60 plus years of my non-professional time of taking photos I have learned that the important thing is the final product, not the equipment.
Good pics are good pics.

joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois

viscountdriver wrote:

I like thinking outside the box and as a consequence I get shouted at a lot so here is a chance to have another go.
I think photos taken with a cell phone should not be shown on this forum. They are not cameras and the operator needs to show minimum skill in using them.

Yes you nailed it in the title. Good work.

seagull5

If I like the image then I don`t care what took it or who took it.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

vd.....if you're ever without a camera and come across the perfect shot.....use your cell phone!!!!

DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area

Are you trying to troll us? This seems like a question designed to elicit heated responses. Of course, a cell phone camera is a camera. Some of them are fairly good cameras. My cell phone has an average camera, for cell phones, and takes OK pictures. To me, since I have better cameras, it's my "flying saucer" camera. If a flying saucer ever showed up, I'd probably take its picture with a cell phone camera because I'm carrying it on my person at all times.

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

viscountdriver wrote:

I like thinking outside the box and as a consequence I get shouted at a lot so here is a chance to have another go.
I think photos taken with a cell phone should not be shown on this forum. They are not cameras and the operator needs to show minimum skill in using them.

You right, your going to get shouted at. Tell me honestly if these photographs are not worthy. I'm not that familiar with your work, but how many of you images are better then these?

http://digital-photography-school.com/10-of-the-best-iphone-photographers-by-photo-style-and-genre/

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

LFingar wrote:

Any DSLR with an "A" setting also requir... (show quote)

Are you forgetting though that automatic mode or not, the best photos are a good combination of composition and the understanding of light and your subject. That's where the skill really come in. Anyone can put their camera in Aperture priority and get a decent exposure. Plenty of crappy shots taken with expensive cameras, plenty of great ones taken with cell phones. See below.

http://digital-photography-school.com/10-of-the-best-iphone-photographers-by-photo-style-and-genre/

mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey

tsilva wrote:

99% of everything on here is shot with minimal skill, so what is the difference?

You've got that right!