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Jul 29, 2016 10:27:02   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
JamesCurran wrote:
This weekend I'll be shooting a model. I plan to cut her -

For this, would it be best to shoot her (Those should be the only choices the studio should have to offer)



Sooooooooooo, you're going to shoot her and cut her huhhhh

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Jul 29, 2016 10:31:09   #
brucewells Loc: Central Kentucky
 
JamesCurran wrote:
This weekend I'll be shooting a model. I plan to cut her out of the image and Photoshop her into a different background.

For this, would it be best to shoot her on an all black background? or an all white one? (Those should be the only choices the studio should have to offer)

The new background/final image will have an overall dark tone.


In the absence of a light grey, I'd use white. Green/blue are best used with video.

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Jul 29, 2016 10:43:17   #
DBaltzer Loc: Scottsdale, Arizona
 
I highly recommend checking out Topaz Remask 2. It does an amazing job. I shoot against a light gray wall. Tried green screen but it tended to add a green hue to hair wisps, especially blondes.

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Jul 29, 2016 10:44:28   #
brucewells Loc: Central Kentucky
 
DBaltzer wrote:
I highly recommend checking out Topaz Remask 2. It does an amazing job. I shoot against a light gray wall. Tried green screen but it tended to add a green hue to hair wisps, especially blondes.



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Jul 29, 2016 10:44:34   #
Bushpilot Loc: Minnesota
 
I would consider a black background, her hair would be the most difficult to separate from the background, since you are going to use a dark
background for the finished image it would be easier to blend her hair into the background.

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Jul 29, 2016 11:08:50   #
jcboy3
 
Howard5252 wrote:
Answering the question within the parameters you gave; use the black background. When cutting her out, if you should for any reason, have some residual background cut out with her - it will not show as much as the white would.


If you can't get a dark brown (to match the planned tone of the image), then use black. A white background will throw light back on the model, adding a glow around the edges, which is not consistent with the planned result. Same issue with green or blue chroma; you have to deal with color glow.

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Jul 29, 2016 11:10:20   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
James, I'm in Rongnongno's corner on this one. Green screen it.
--Bob


JamesCurran wrote:
This weekend I'll be shooting a model. I plan to cut her out of the image and Photoshop her into a different background.

For this, would it be best to shoot her on an all black background? or an all white one? (Those should be the only choices the studio should have to offer)

The new background/final image will have an overall dark tone.

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Jul 29, 2016 11:22:02   #
CaltechNerd Loc: Whittier, CA, USA
 
Green screen is great for video, but I've seen color backgrounds reflect like mad on a subject in still photography. Later I heard Scott Kelby say the same thing. Yes, he's conceited but that doesn't mean his observation is wrong, especially when I'd already experienced it first hand.

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Jul 29, 2016 11:23:10   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
The more contrast you have between backdrop and subject the easier it will be to extract the subject.

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Jul 29, 2016 12:17:25   #
CPR Loc: Nature Coast of Florida
 
I would also recommend the dark background. Hopefully you'll do a better job with the hair than one of the previous commenters did. The newest version of PS has tools that will make the selection very realistic.

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Jul 29, 2016 12:38:07   #
Weddingguy Loc: British Columbia - Canada
 
Vinman wrote:
Do not use green as it cast a greenish tint along the edges.
White would be my choice and I believe Kelby had a tutorial
that also said that.
Minimize the light on the background to get dark gray even
on a light background.


I cut out people from backgrounds every day as I am a wedding/portrait photographer that primarily shoots on location. I must agree here with Vinman.

The green or blue screens that are traditionally used in chroma key or green screen as it is often referred to, are for sure challenging to say the least, and really do require a very good green screen program for accurate selection.

A white background, evenly lit, can be used very successfully with Topaz ReMask 5 (very inexpensive compared to true green screen programs) and can be lit to create a desirable light or dark gray, depending on the models hair color and planned replacement background color and shade.

All the other suggestions here are not made from experienced green screen shooters . . . and yes, the blue or green backgrounds are best for video production and should be a minimum of 10 feet from the subject..

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Jul 29, 2016 13:16:44   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
JamesCurran wrote:
This weekend I'll be shooting a model. I plan to cut her out of the image and Photoshop her into a different background.

For this, would it be best to shoot her on an all black background? or an all white one? (Those should be the only choices the studio should have to offer)

The new background/final image will have an overall dark tone.

I think for your purpose (the removal of background) the white one should be better, as it lets you separate fine details a lot easier, while there is a chance of them getting lost (or un-noticed) are much greater by using a black background (all of that depends on the lighting and clothing of the model as well -just generally speaking.

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Jul 29, 2016 20:34:49   #
jcarlosjr Loc: Orange County
 
There are a few pitfalls to green backdrops. If your model is a wearing green or a green skinned alien there may be a problem.



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Jul 29, 2016 21:27:48   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
Photoshop finds edges by looking at contrast. So you want to have a background that has a lot of contrast with your model, her clothes and hair.

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Jul 29, 2016 21:37:59   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
JamesCurran wrote:
The project is to try to recreate this image (Paul Delvaux's The Sleepy Town). THe model will be all four (um.. five) women in the picture. The background will be assembled from other picture, and I'll be the man on the left.


Don't fall asleep! LoL

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