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Jul 8, 2016 08:45:48   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
I remember about ten years ago when CF cards were less than 1gb. I remember 512mb CF Cards. And they weren't cheap either. Now we have SD cards that are 256gb. And you can get a cheap 32gb SD card for $10 now. That's progress.

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Jul 8, 2016 10:17:17   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
rmm0605 wrote:
I believe the pictured memory units are MICRO memory units. They slip into a holder and take the form of standard SD cards.


Unfortunately, it wouldn't matter if there was a mechanical adapter as the electrical interface is completely different. To quote Wiki (note especially the full duplex serial LVDS vs 8-lane parallel interface and the SCSI command queuing):

"The electrical interface for UFS uses the M-PHY,[5] developed by the MIPI Alliance, a high speed serial interface targeting 2.9 Gbit/s (gigabits per second) per lane with up-scalability to 5.8 Gbit/s per lane.[6][7] UFS implements a full-duplex serial LVDS interface that scales better to higher bandwidths than the 8-lane parallel interface of eMMCs. Unlike eMMC, Universal Flash Storage is based on the SCSI architectural model and supports SCSI Tagged Command Queuing".

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Jul 8, 2016 10:20:19   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
CA_CanonUser wrote:
What is the advantage over CFast 2.0 cards? CFast cards can read 525 MB/s and write 445 MB/s. Cameras have to "catch up" to the memory cards' capabilities; only the new top end professional grade cameras can write at anywhere near those speeds.


That's a good question. I notice that these have been discontinued by B&H.

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Jul 8, 2016 11:07:12   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
rmm0605 wrote:
I believe the pictured memory units are MICRO memory units. They slip into a holder and take the form of standard SD cards.


This might be the case given that all those cameras and other devices that use SD card format represents 'market.'

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Jul 8, 2016 11:11:28   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
TriX wrote:
Unfortunately, it wouldn't matter if there was a mechanical adapter as the electrical interface is completely different. To quote Wiki (note especially the full duplex serial LVDS vs 8-lane parallel interface and the SCSI command queuing):

"The electrical interface for UFS uses the M-PHY,[5] developed by the MIPI Alliance, a high speed serial interface targeting 2.9 Gbit/s (gigabits per second) per lane with up-scalability to 5.8 Gbit/s per lane.[6][7] UFS implements a full-duplex serial LVDS interface that scales better to higher bandwidths than the 8-lane parallel interface of eMMCs. Unlike eMMC, Universal Flash Storage is based on the SCSI architectural model and supports SCSI Tagged Command Queuing".
Unfortunately, it wouldn't matter if there was a m... (show quote)


Wow, that is some quote. That is the problem with Wiki: the article must have been written by an 'insider' expert for the other 100 experts to read. Won't be wasting bucks just to see if they work in my camera.

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Jul 8, 2016 11:30:46   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
johnst1001a wrote:
Camera manufacturers will provide slots for UFS's over time, just like they did for the SD cards. Canon 1DS Mark II already has the slot for this new memory card, along with an SD slot. When you have a camera that can shoot 12 pics/second, you need an ultra fast memory card.


I don't know where you get your info but I suggest you try someplace different as its totally erroneous.
The Canon 1DS MK II uses dual slots yes, but one slot is CF and the other is SD. Absolutely no camera on the market today uses this new technology as of now.

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Jul 8, 2016 11:44:14   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
wdross wrote:
What styles does it come in? SD? CF? Other?


It looks a little like micro SD, But it is own form factor.

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Jul 8, 2016 11:46:30   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
It'll probably be of interest mainly to the video market first,then to the still photography market.

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Jul 8, 2016 12:20:44   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
John_F wrote:
Wow, that is some quote. That is the problem with Wiki: the article must have been written by an 'insider' expert for the other 100 experts to read. Won't be wasting bucks just to see if they work in my camera.


Right choice John - they won't (work).

Cheers,
Chris

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Jul 8, 2016 13:19:22   #
CA_CanonUser Loc: Friendswood, TX
 
The Canon 1DS Mark ii is a very old camera (approx 2005). If you are speaking of the newest Canon, it is the 1DX Mark II. It has two memory card slots, one for a CFast 2.0 card and the other for a CF card.

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Jul 8, 2016 16:09:16   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
TriX wrote:
Right choice John - they won't (work).

Cheers,
Chris


Since Samsung developed it, Samsung devices will likely be first to support it. It will need it's own socket/slot - No devices with it are out now, But Perhaps a Galaxy 8 is on the way,or perhaps a new Samsung camera line.

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Jul 8, 2016 16:34:21   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
MT Shooter wrote:
Which means absolutely nothing if camera manufacturers do not elect to adopt the format. Remember MMS, Memory Sticks, XD, and a few others that were good cards, but lost to the sands of time because they became proprietary and no one else adopted the formats besides the designer.


Ah yes, but wouldn't they be great to use when 100mp sensors with 150mb raw files become common? We can only dream at this point.

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