A Fair Price ?
May 21, 2012 05:42:09 #
jerryc41 wrote:
Aeordynamic question: I know that the shape of the wing causes a low pressure area above it, and that lifts the plane. So, when the plane is flying upsidedown, why doesn't it descend?
The control tabs are appropriatly trimmed!
May 21, 2012 05:44:23 #
jerryc41 wrote:
Aeordynamic question: I know that the shape of the wing causes a low pressure area above it, and that lifts the plane. So, when the plane is flying upsidedown, why doesn't it descend?
The control tabs are appropriatly trimmed!
May 21, 2012 05:51:06 #
I totally agree with you, I got out in 67 (though I served in Germany, luckily missed Nam) and we arrived back in the states in uniform, my own countrymen were spitting on the uniform calling us names in the reception line, I thought we landed in the wrong country (they obviously didn't know we came from Europe). It's a different world today and I am glad that our people in service are no longer treated like we were.
frenchcoast wrote:
quote=Buddy Bob Thanks for the input frenchcoast.... (show quote)
May 21, 2012 06:49:54 #
Buddy Bob wrote:
To St3v3M & egnblack : I appreciate your patriotism. My Father served in the Korean war, I put 4 yrs in stateside, and my Son just finnished his 4th tour in Iraq, and "re-upped" for another 6. Unfortunately, Canon doesn't "give" me free paper & ink in "gratitude" for my families service. It cost me full price just like everyone else.
I was going to bring that up. Why are a lot of folks assuming you are a charity? I would expect reimbursement for my materials and if you want to donate your time that is up to you. I have had a lot of work done over the years on pics of myfamily members in uniform and I always expected. To pay for it. I am a Navy veteran and had a lot of old 8mm film from those days put on a disc and I neither asked for nor expected any breaks.
May 21, 2012 07:04:36 #
alann
Loc: Virginia
glojo wrote:
I am going to go out on a limb here... br br I no... (show quote)
Either side of this argument is valid. Charge or don't charge; neither is wrong.
Please do not take this as an attack but, when I hear how much a service man/women is "paid well" I have to respond. Since when are Sailors, Soldiers , Airmen,and Marines "paid well"? The pay scale over there must be much higher than in the US. We served because we love our county, NOT for the money. :) As an example, a young sailor working on the deck of an aircraft carrier makes less than a clerk at McDonalds (during Viet Nam; not sure what it is now). What a shame.
May 21, 2012 07:07:35 #
Buddy Bob wrote:
I have an associate who asked me if I could take s... (show quote)
I do photo restoration and in this economy its a rough business. When I first got started I went to Jo-ann Fabric and asked them what they charge for a minimal restoration they told me $70. I charge $30 minimum depending on amount of work per photo, scratches,spots etc. More if I have to replace sections of picture. Then I do my own printing and charge an additional $3 to $5 for additional prints. If I spend 3 hours on a photo ,which is about average, thats $10 an hour for work and material. I use museum quality inks and paper so that price is very fair!!
May 21, 2012 07:37:43 #
Buddy Bob wrote:
I have an associate who asked me if I could take s... (show quote)
Most people have something audible they have done at some time in their lives which may prompt some to feel that the rest of us should provide them with free services. Veterans have enough benefits for what they did already, including free medical care for the rest of their lives. Moreover, military service is not necessarily a sacrifice for the rest of us. Many enter it as the most expedient economic alternative, or for adventure. The wars we fight do not keep us free; they enrich the military/industrial complex. Your work and time is valuable. Charge for it.
May 21, 2012 07:55:23 #
jerryc41 wrote:
Aeordynamic question: I know that the shape of the wing causes a low pressure area above it, and that lifts the plane. So, when the plane is flying upsidedown, why doesn't it descend?
Without the thrust provided by the engine, any and all aircraft will decend, inverted or not.
May 21, 2012 07:57:04 #
samleo wrote:
The control tabs are appropriatly trimmed!
jerryc41 wrote:
Aeordynamic question: I know that the shape of the wing causes a low pressure area above it, and that lifts the plane. So, when the plane is flying upsidedown, why doesn't it descend?
The control tabs are appropriatly trimmed!
And the other part of that answer is that the wing shape and the low pressure zone above the wind isn't the whole story on how a wing works and why aircraft fly.
You can make a rock fly given enough thrust.
May 21, 2012 08:03:51 #
When flying a plan either jet or prop the elevator on the tail cause the plan to go up or down. By pushing down on the stick and finding the spot to keep the plane level countering acting the wing. If he was fling right-side up he would start to dive.
May 21, 2012 08:16:12 #
glojo wrote:
they were well paid for what they did,
Paid yes! ... well paid no! :roll:
May 21, 2012 08:27:37 #
Hi Buddy Bob,
Given the information you shared I suggest you charge a reasonable rate for your work. Does $25.00 per hour sound reasonable? It does to me when I just paid $85.00 per hour for a plumber to make a repair in my home.
Iusually charge for my photography and I don't consider myself a professional; just someone who uses pictures to illustrate articles for trade magazines and books. Like I think you mentioned, I'm on a limited income and photography/writing helps balance the books at the end of the month.
For the record my father was in supply in the Philipines in WWII, I was in the infantry in Vietnam, and my son was a medic in the Gulf so we are vets as well and not looking for a hand out nor do we want anything free from anyone. I suggest you charge him a reasonable rate AND verbally thank him for his father's service. Take care & ...
Tight Lines - Al Beatty
BT's Fly Fishing & Photography
www.btsflyfishing.com
Given the information you shared I suggest you charge a reasonable rate for your work. Does $25.00 per hour sound reasonable? It does to me when I just paid $85.00 per hour for a plumber to make a repair in my home.
Iusually charge for my photography and I don't consider myself a professional; just someone who uses pictures to illustrate articles for trade magazines and books. Like I think you mentioned, I'm on a limited income and photography/writing helps balance the books at the end of the month.
For the record my father was in supply in the Philipines in WWII, I was in the infantry in Vietnam, and my son was a medic in the Gulf so we are vets as well and not looking for a hand out nor do we want anything free from anyone. I suggest you charge him a reasonable rate AND verbally thank him for his father's service. Take care & ...
Tight Lines - Al Beatty
BT's Fly Fishing & Photography
www.btsflyfishing.com
May 21, 2012 08:58:08 #
CaptainC wrote:
Well, the 747 Probably could sustain inverted flight for a short period from an aerodynamic standpoint, but there are lots of practical reasons why it would be a really bad idea. :-)
jerryc41 wrote:
So that would be do-able in an F18 but not in a 747. Understood.
CaptainC wrote:
So inverted, the wing just needs a positive AOA - and massive amounts of thrust does not hurt!
So that would be do-able in an F18 but not in a 747. Understood.
Well, the 747 Probably could sustain inverted flight for a short period from an aerodynamic standpoint, but there are lots of practical reasons why it would be a really bad idea. :-)
I'm guessing the passengers probably wouldn't like it.
May 21, 2012 09:00:52 #
Hi Buddy Bob,
Pic look OK to me. . . ! Personally I have a similar situation with the website for my local bowls club. I'm both editor and club photographer and from time to time bowlers ask me for prints of pics I've taken and posted on our website. They're very happy to pay $2.00 for a 6 x 4 or $4.00 for a 10 x 8 - suitably massaged via photshop of course. Does this give you any ideas ? OzJohn
Pic look OK to me. . . ! Personally I have a similar situation with the website for my local bowls club. I'm both editor and club photographer and from time to time bowlers ask me for prints of pics I've taken and posted on our website. They're very happy to pay $2.00 for a 6 x 4 or $4.00 for a 10 x 8 - suitably massaged via photshop of course. Does this give you any ideas ? OzJohn
May 21, 2012 09:09:19 #
jkm757 wrote:
I'm guessing the passengers probably wouldn't like it.
Au contrair! I bet people would pay a fortune to fly upsidedown in a 747. Look at how much people pay ($5,000) to ride in the Vomit Comet - and actually vomit.
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