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Jun 11, 2016 19:08:11   #
Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.
 
But some will still refuse to see it.

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Jun 11, 2016 20:46:05   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
nice

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Jun 12, 2016 09:38:26   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
Expect denial and creationist/ID bullshit and half truths from the Rac.....!!!

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Jun 12, 2016 16:00:22   #
HEART Loc: God's Country - COLORADO
 




Dang....spot on...!!



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Jun 12, 2016 16:51:43   #
Keenan Loc: Central Coast California
 
slocumeddie wrote:
Expect denial and creationist/ID bullshit and half truths from the Rac.....!!!


...along with the crew of bigoted, racist, religious, delusional morons...

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Jun 13, 2016 08:01:29   #
LarJgrip Loc: The Fraser Valley
 


Say what you will, the source of information has always been, is still and will always be intelligence.

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Jun 13, 2016 13:19:26   #
Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.
 
LarJgrip wrote:
Say what you will, the source of information has always been, is still and will always be intelligence.



I think I agree, but I'm not 100% sure about what you're saying. If you're saying that none of this explains how human intelligence came about, then yes I agree. The trouble is, human intelligence, isn't tangible. It doesn't leave any fossil record that can be studied. We can trace it back through writings, cave paintings and even flint tools. But before that, we tend to hit a wall.

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Jun 13, 2016 20:11:44   #
LarJgrip Loc: The Fraser Valley
 
Wellhiem wrote:
I think I agree, but I'm not 100% sure about what you're saying. If you're saying that none of this explains how human intelligence came about, then yes I agree. The trouble is, human intelligence, isn't tangible. It doesn't leave any fossil record that can be studied. We can trace it back through writings, cave paintings and even flint tools. But before that, we tend to hit a wall.


So then, at the very least there must be intelligence on the other side of the wall. Yes?

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Jun 14, 2016 07:04:10   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
LarJgrip wrote:
So then, at the very least there must be intelligence on the other side of the wall. Yes?

possible, but not necessarily true... maybe the wall is intelligent... maybe the wall is an intrinsic artifact of intelligence... maybe the wall is just the limitations of our intelligence

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Jun 15, 2016 06:29:18   #
Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.
 
LarJgrip wrote:
So then, at the very least there must be intelligence on the other side of the wall. Yes?


It's not yet proven or even evidenced, that there is a wall.

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Jun 15, 2016 08:29:05   #
LarJgrip Loc: The Fraser Valley
 
Wellhiem wrote:
It's not yet proven or even evidenced, that there is a wall.


True, but we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that ultimately over all and apart from us there is an intelligence. We know that because we are made up and function through information ie:DNA and information can only come about through intelligence.

Many don't want to admit it but you cannot have information without first having an intelligent source.

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Jun 15, 2016 09:22:56   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
LarJgrip wrote:
True, but we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that ultimately over all and apart from us there is an intelligence.
Nonsense.....
LarJgrip wrote:
We know that because we are made up and function through information.
More nonsense.....

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Jun 15, 2016 14:06:12   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
LarJgrip wrote:
True, but we know beyond a shadow of a doubt that ultimately over all and apart from us there is an intelligence. We know that because we are made up and function through information ie:DNA and information can only come about through intelligence.

Many don't want to admit it but you cannot have information without first having an intelligent source.


That is not correct... First of all, I don't think you believe you are separate and apart from the creator of the universe... that separation is illusion, the illusory nature of our world.

The fact that we live in time-space constrains us to see the unity of the universe as cause and effect, creator and creation, doer and done to.... these are just tints on reality due to the glasses we where when we put on a human body.

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Jun 15, 2016 14:12:27   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
Uh-oh.....woo-woo again..........

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Jun 15, 2016 14:17:01   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
slocumeddie wrote:
Uh-oh.....woo-woo again..........
I'm sorry, these concepts are part and parcel to quantum mechanics and relativistic physics that has been around for almost a hundred years, hardly woo-woo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect_(physics)

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