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Apr 22, 2016 20:24:43   #
Bobnewnan
 
In PS I've found the camera shake filter to be an excellent feature for hand held shots. I also use one of the sharpening filters and the question is, when using both, which should be used first?

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Apr 22, 2016 22:03:25   #
Haydon
 
I don't think there's a set procedure. Sometimes camera shake works well and other times it simply shouldn't be used. Try it and see if your happy with the results. If not, don't use it on that photograph.

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Apr 22, 2016 22:06:17   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
Bobnewnan wrote:
In PS I've found the camera shake filter to be an excellent feature for hand held shots. I also use one of the sharpening filters and the question is, when using both, which should be used first?


Try both ways and let us know!

But seriously, experimenting is often the best way to figure out what works best for different situations. If I had to guess, I would think camera shake filter first to better define the edges before they are sent through sharpening.

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Apr 22, 2016 23:42:13   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
I find there is no set priority. Shake works well on some, smart sharpen or others better on others. Just depends. I am also learning surface blur with the appropriate set up works great as well on some images. Just have to play.

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Apr 23, 2016 05:56:48   #
OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey
 
Use a tripod and eliminate the use both...well not sharpen so much... which is for the most part near the end .

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Apr 23, 2016 08:33:06   #
Scoutman Loc: Orlando, FL
 
Bobnewnan wrote:
In PS I've found the camera shake filter to be an excellent feature for hand held shots. I also use one of the sharpening filters and the question is, when using both, which should be used first?


I have read on several occasions that the "sharpen" feature, or its equivalent, should be the last tool you use in post processing.

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Apr 23, 2016 08:56:07   #
Haydon
 
Scoutman wrote:
I have read on several occasions that the "sharpen" feature, or its equivalent, should be the last tool you use in post processing.


Many claim it should be the first and noise reduction the last.

OnDSnap wrote:
Use a tripod and eliminate the use both...well not sharpen so much... which is for the most part near the end .


I've used the filter with a shutter release and a healthy Gitzo and had some improvement in the image as strange as it sound. You should try it out yourself ;)

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Apr 23, 2016 09:03:10   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
Bobnewnan wrote:
In PS I've found the camera shake filter to be an excellent feature for hand held shots. I also use one of the sharpening filters and the question is, when using both, which should be used first?


First, avoid camera movement or subject blur when making the exposure.

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Apr 23, 2016 09:30:58   #
Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia
 
Bobnewnan wrote:
In PS I've found the camera shake filter to be an excellent feature for hand held shots. I also use one of the sharpening filters and the question is, when using both, which should be used first?


There is no preference. Camera shake function in PS fall short in solving shake issues. Many mistake shake for out of focus. Nothing solves out of focus issues unless you can rearrange the pixels. No software atm can do that.

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Apr 23, 2016 10:03:31   #
OnDSnap Loc: NE New Jersey
 
Haydon wrote:
I've used the filter with a shutter release and a healthy Gitzo and had some improvement in the image as strange as it sound. You should try it out yourself ;)


I always use a Gitzo with a RRS BH-55 Pam head

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Apr 23, 2016 10:20:24   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
Sorry, for most subjects that interest me, tripods are just too slow and awkward. Much prefer to move and shoot. VR is a wonderful thing.

The PSE 14 camera shake tool is not a solution, but can sometimes retrieve / improve a shot you can't retake. I use it on occasion.

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Apr 23, 2016 11:17:08   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Bobnewnan wrote:
In PS I've found the camera shake filter to be an excellent feature for hand held shots. I also use one of the sharpening filters and the question is, when using both, which should be used first?


I never use camera shake blur correction filter, so can't say when it should be applied...

I do use various sharpening techniques and those are normally best applied as one of the very last steps editing an image. Should definitely be done after any noise reduction is applied, often after any other image editing and optimization... after the crop, size and resolution are set.

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Apr 23, 2016 12:39:47   #
Bobnewnan
 
To those who replied, yep, I've tried both ways and as some said, sometimes camera shake makes a mess and sometimes it really clears up the image. And as some others said it doesn't seem to make any difference. That's also what Nikon said when I asked them. So there you have it, do whatever fits your work flow.

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Apr 23, 2016 12:48:54   #
Macronaut Loc: Redondo Beach,Ca.
 
Scoutman wrote:
I have read on several occasions that the "sharpen" feature, or its equivalent, should be the last tool you use in post processing.
What I have found, is that it depends on the image. Sometimes sharpening first works best and other times, it's better to reduce noise first. I might suggest a bit of experimenting.:wink:

I do my best to eliminate camera shake before I click the shutter but, unless it's a once in a lifetime shot where IQ is not first priority, it gets deleted and I won't waste time on it.

It would seem logical to me to deal with the shake first....IMHO.

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Apr 24, 2016 16:17:12   #
MMC Loc: Brooklyn NY
 
As I know every picture taken with Digital camera should be sharpened even if it was taken using the best tripod.
OnDSnap wrote:
Use a tripod and eliminate the use both...well not sharpen so much... which is for the most part near the end .

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