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Apr 14, 2016 11:36:35   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
Psergel wrote:
You are going to love the image quality and high ISO performance of your 6D.
I also have the 7DII and I like it a lot but......unless I'm after birds in flight or need the "extra reach" of a crop sensor, I tend to go with the 6D.
Great for low light with no flash.
Take shots of the same subject in the same lighting with each camera set to ISO 6400 and look at the noise characteristics of each.


I had been looking at getting some kind of full frame for some time now. I too love the 7DII and have gotten some really nice BIF shots and other action shots, but I know a good Full Frame has better low light capability and is much better for landscapes and portraits, etc. For the price range I was looking at, It came down to two possibilities - a 6D or a 5D II.

In the end, after looking at lots of videos and reading lots of reviews, I decided the 6D was the winner for my needs and price range. I even saw a good side-by-side comparison between the 6D and the venerable, and much more costly, 5D III and decided that the things I'd give up with the 6D vs 5DIII were not worth more than $1000 more. I do wish the 6D had a more robust AF system, but for what I will be using it for, I can live with what it has. The 6D has WiFi and GPS the others don't, but not sure how much, if at all, I'll use those features. My 7DII has GPS but I almost never use it. (and it is a huge battery drain).

I will definitely try the side-by-side comparison at high ISO you suggest. I'll probably post the results.

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Apr 14, 2016 11:42:00   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
amfoto1 wrote:
The best image quality, particularly on full frame, is the 16-35/4L. It's also reasonably compact and the only one of the three with IS.

6D can shoot action... but it's limited to the center AF point only. That's the only dual axis-type point it's got. It's also the best one for really low light, allowing the camera to focus in -3EV light. (1DX, 5DIII, 7DII & 80D can, too... using limited AF points. But most other Canon are -1EV, at best.)

All the 6D's other points are slower single-axis type and not up to either low light or moving targets. However they're just fine for a lot of things. The 6D will be excellent for landscape and portrait work.
The best image quality, particularly on full frame... (show quote)


I have read lots of good reviews of the 16-35 f4 and it's a lot less $$ than the 2.8 versions. Plus, the IS held offset the stop less aperture. That will probably be my next lens (but not for a while)

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Apr 14, 2016 13:51:23   #
rocketride Loc: Upstate NY
 
For mostly landscape (including twilight/night and astro), portrait and 'gig' (musical performance) photography, my 6D has served me very well these last 2 years.


Basil wrote:
I have been pining to get a decent Full Frame camera to supplement my Canon 7D MII crop sensor and, after months of browsing Amazon, B&H, Adorama, EBay, etc., I finally pulled the trigger.

I had been considering buying either a used 6D or used 5D Mark II for non-action stuff like landscapes and portraits, but today I saw that Canon had the 6D refurbished for $1099, $260 off the regular refurb price - the best price I've seen so far for essentially a new 6D. I bought two speedlites from their refurb store and I could not tell they were not new! I have heard that they go through their refurbished items them probably more extensively than the QC new items get off the line. Plus it comes with a warranty (albeit not as long as a new Canon).

I admit this was a bit of an impulse and I went back and forth all day - I actually had it in my cart 2 or 3 times, then got cold feet thinking I'd be better off buying a used FF but finally, late tonight, I decided to just pull the trigger and give myself a slightly early Birthday present (BDay is early August). This was one of Canon's red-price specials where they line out the regular refurb price and put it on sale and I know that those deals are fleeting, so I figured if I didn't jump it would be sold out and I'd be kicking myself.

They also have the 5D Mark III refurbished on sale, but even at the sale price, it was a full $1000 more than the 6D. From everything I've read, the few things you give up with the 6D vs 5DIII (only one card slot vs 2, slightly simpler AF, slower frame rate) are offset by some things the 6D has that the 5DIII doesn't, like GPS and WiFi. Since I'll be using it mostly for things like Portraits and Landscapes, I felt like the 6D was a good option to get my feet wet in the Full Frame world.

Now for the hard part - waiting until Brown arrives!
I have been pining to get a decent Full Frame came... (show quote)

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Apr 14, 2016 13:55:40   #
rocketride Loc: Upstate NY
 
I bought a clean used 17-40 f/4 L recently and love it. It's not IS, but wide-angle is where that is the least needed.

rmorrison1116 wrote:
You've got 3 Canon's to choose from, the 16-35 f/2.8, the 16-35 f/4 and the 17-40 f/4. All are L glass and all are really good lenses. I have the 16-35 f/2.8 lens.

From what I've read and from personal experience, the best bang for your buck is the 17-40.

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Apr 14, 2016 13:57:06   #
rocketride Loc: Upstate NY
 
Bingo.

Jer wrote:
The 6d a good camera you'll be happy with it.
And yes you can use it for Action photography. People seem to think just because cameras don't have high frame per second rates but they can't be used for action. In the old days we used cameras that didn't have a frame per second rating and we still took pictures of action.

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Apr 14, 2016 13:58:00   #
rocketride Loc: Upstate NY
 
I mostly shoot handheld and using only the center AF point.

amfoto1 wrote:
The best image quality, particularly on full frame, is the 16-35/4L. It's also reasonably compact and the only one of the three with IS.

6D can shoot action... but it's limited to the center AF point only. That's the only dual axis-type point it's got. It's also the best one for really low light, allowing the camera to focus in -3EV light. (1DX, 5DIII, 7DII & 80D can, too... using limited AF points. But most other Canon are -1EV, at best.)

All the 6D's other points are slower single-axis type and not up to either low light or moving targets. However they're just fine for a lot of things. The 6D will be excellent for landscape and portrait work.
The best image quality, particularly on full frame... (show quote)

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Apr 14, 2016 14:05:15   #
PaulR01 Loc: West Texas
 
Basil you will enjoy the 6D. It take great pictures. I just upgraded to the 5Diii because I needed the focusing system for sports. My old one shipped out today, so it was best you grabbed the refurbished one when you had the chance. I don't know if it's in all photographer's blood. But impulse buying gets expensive. Then you gotta explain it to your wife.

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Apr 14, 2016 14:43:23   #
PhotosBySteve
 
Basil wrote:
I've read very good reviews on all three of those. It will probably be a good deal of time before I'm ready for another lens, but the 16-35 f4 is one I've been looking at for a while.


I have had the 6D since it first came out. I also own the 7D. Both have been great cameras for all the reasons previously mentioned by others. One of my favorite lenses to use on my 6D is the 16-35 f/4. It has great image quality, fantastic stabilization and super good looking Starburst effects when shooting into the light. My overall favorite lens for my 6D is my 50mm/f1.4!

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Apr 14, 2016 15:59:57   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
PaulR01 wrote:
Basil you will enjoy the 6D. It take great pictures. I just upgraded to the 5Diii because I needed the focusing system for sports. My old one shipped out today, so it was best you grabbed the refurbished one when you had the chance. I don't know if it's in all photographer's blood. But impulse buying gets expensive. Then you gotta explain it to your wife.


I kinda figured your used 6D was going to be gone. It was just serendipity that Canon happened to have the same camera on such a great sale. Of course those red number sales Canon has on their refurbs usually don't last long. Even looking on EBay and some of the less reputable sources I had not seen a price as good as their refurb.

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Apr 14, 2016 17:27:50   #
bowlegs56 Loc: clearwater fla
 
I read that the new 6D2 will be released around Semptember of this year.

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Apr 14, 2016 18:40:06   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
bowlegs56 wrote:
I read that the new 6D2 will be released around Semptember of this year.


And the 5D Mark IV probably not far off either. That may be why such a good deal on the refurb 6D. No matter what you get there will always be something better down the road.

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Apr 14, 2016 20:24:47   #
STUBS
 
I'M HAPPY FOR YOU GOOD LUCK !

DON

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Apr 14, 2016 21:29:58   #
PlsFStopIt Loc: Kansas City
 
Basil wrote:
Just curious if any 6D users on UHH use the iPhone APP to control their 6D? I read it has that capability, but do you need to be connected to a wireless, or will it work over a cellphone digital signal (Like 3G or LTE?)

By the way, I just got the email from Canon that my New toy is on its way!


It uses a wifi signal to connect. I have tried it with my wife's tablet and it works. I have not found much use for it though, but at times it can be useful. I'm sure you'll enjoy your new 6D

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Apr 14, 2016 21:34:18   #
Basil Loc: New Mexico
 
PlsFStopIt wrote:
It uses a wifi signal to connect. I have tried it with my wife's tablet and it works. I have not found much use for it though, but at times it can be useful. I'm sure you'll enjoy your new 6D


I was thinking it might be nice to be able to see a larger version of a shot than available on the LCD?

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Apr 14, 2016 22:44:38   #
happy sailor Loc: Ontario, Canada
 
Basil wrote:
Just curious if any 6D users on UHH use the iPhone APP to control their 6D? I read it has that capability, but do you need to be connected to a wireless, or will it work over a cellphone digital signal (Like 3G or LTE?)

By the way, I just got the email from Canon that my New toy is on its way!


Hi Basil, congrats on your purchase, I have had my 6d for a couple of years now and have used the iPhone app on my iPhone and my iPad. I like it and use it when I am shooting on a tripod, it makes a great remote trigger. I have set the camera and tripod in the yard by the bird feeders and operated the camera from in the house. I find the feature very useful.

The camera connects to your iPhone or iPad by wifi nothing to do with 3G 4g or LTE. The built in wifi transmits to the wifi in your phone, the two devices talk to each other, you do not need any other device or network for it to work.

While travelling I have used the wifi function to transfer some shots to the iPad to make sure I have what I want and to email some pictures right away.

It is a great camera and I am sure you will not regret your purchase.

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