natureshot Loc: Kirkwood, IL

Beautifully said !!!

Jim Bob

Maybe. But totally irrelevant.

rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania

Well thank you for pointing out my new 80D is such a piece of junk. I guess my 5Dsr and 7DII are junk also. What I don't quite understand is, if Canon manufactures and sells such junk then why is it the largest company of its kind and why does it outsell all the other camera companies. I guess I should find some uneducated sap and sell them all my Canon junk and go get me a superior Nikon or Sony camera.

Jim Bob

Show me where I called the 80D "a piece of junk". I simply pointed to the fact that it's image quality is no match for the Nikon D7200. The only junk I see is your brain.

rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania

Well you sure did put me in my place. It's now obvious to me why I've been acquiring inferior cameras for so long, I've got an inferior brain and that must be true because you can see it. Thank you for clearing that up for me.

Thought I'd throw in a few inferior photos taken with an inferior camera and an inferior brain.

Foto Ed Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

I'm taking a picture of my team for Operation Red Nose last Christmas and a guy walks by and asks...

Is that a Nikon you have there?

My answer.. Yes, it is.

He replies... I used to have a Nikon but I switched to Canon.

My reply.... I used to have a Canon.

Foto Ed Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

PS:

When I look closely at those very good shots, I can tell they are from a
Canon. I can't explain why my eyes see that.

Maybe it has something to do with the type of lens glass that makes the hue or saturation differ.

All I know is what my eyes tell my brain.

Jim Bob

Your response and these photos only fortify my previous post.

rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania

Oh come on, you can do better than that. What does that even mean? That's nothing but a hollow insult, empty and meaningless. You've offered no statistical argument to validate that statement. I would have expected far more from the UHH bully. Where's all the IQ mumbo-jumbo, the dynamic range dissertation, sharpness comentary; an explanation of how these photos, in no way are even worthy of being posted on the same BB as the master . I was expecting at least some criticism, but no, just an empty yeah well I told you.

rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania

Thought I'd toss in some red.

Jim Bob

OK. Try this on for size. Virtually all of your images are extremely soft and lack detail. This substantially seals your fate as a second rate photographer. Won't matter what camera you use. If you really wish to see what sharp images look like, take a gander at my photos in the gallery. Or just view this sample of what house finches really look like in the hands of a decent photographer. And I call these two of my mediocre images. Hit the download button and become enlightened. 'Nuff said.

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rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania

Virtually all my images are bad? Do you even know what that means? For starters, virtually all doesn't mean ALL or EVERY, it means mostly or practically or just about. So, since it's virtually all, you're actually saying that some are good. Didn't realize that, did ya?!

As for the "all my images", I'm absolutely sure you don't have access to my hard drives. So how can you accurately criticize all my images when you've never seen them. Just another unsubstantiated statement on your part.

Here's a news flash, literally all the images I've posted here are nothing more than oversized thumbnails, not exactly high resolution stuff.

From what I can see on my computer screen, the chicken is sharper and has more detail than both your, put me in my place, finches.

I'll admit, there's really nothing wrong with your little bird pictures, nothing spectacular, just average. The first one has marginal detail and the second one is quite soft, not the amazing photographs you obviously believe them to be. I don't find anything enlightening about them. Again, do you really know what that means. Let me enlighten you, it means to impart knowledge and believe it or not, they're just pictures, that's all, no knowledge, just bird pictures.

Are you a professional photographer? Do you pay your bills with an income derived from photography? Not me, I design and write software. My skills as a software engineer enable me to afford a lot of really nice photography gear, a really expensive motorcycle, a big truck the wife and I use to tow our 36 foot travel trailer anywhere we want to go. So you relegating me as second class anything is as ludicrous as me, or probably anyone, taking you seriously.

Here's a little useful unsolicited advice, be careful patting yourself on the back, you may hurt yourself.

isokc Loc: Tacoma, WA

Jim Bob, I'm ok with most of what you typed except for the last sentence. Do you go around talking to people like that all the time?

Back to the topic: Dang I'm jealous!!!! Hope you enjoy your new camera.

rmorrison1116 Loc: Near Valley Forge, Pennsylvania

Anyone who knows a thing or two about Nikon and Canon cameras knows the D7200 is an excellent camera. It's Sony designed image sensor is one of if not the best aps-c class sensors available. The new image sensor in the 80D is the closest Canon engineers have come to designing and aps-c sensor similar in specs to the Sony sensor but they still have work to do. Canon's engineers need to put less R&D into super high megapixel sensors and more into improved light capture. But who knows what's going on behind closed doors at Canon R&D.

So far I like the new 80D. It's definitely an advancement over its predecessor the 70D. I haven't really had a chance to see what the new camera is capable of but in time, we'll see.

Mr. Bob's saying I'd have to go full frame is a little humorous to me since I already have a 5Dsr and there's no contest to which camera produces better images. Let's see, a 24 mpx aps-c sensor or a 50 mpx full frame sensor; and the winner is...