Don't believe everything you see on the news (Page 2): So you are saying that their agenda is not to present the news in a certain manner! You have just reinforced my point.

ole sarg Loc: south florida

So you are saying that their agenda is not to present the news in a certain manner!

You have just reinforced my point.

pecohen wrote:

Crest's agenda is the same as any other corporation - to make money, ostensibly for their stockholders. In fact they are required to have that as their first obligation by the decision in the case of Dodge vs. Ford.

I am serious.

phlash46 Loc: Westchester County, New York

Scary...

ole sarg Loc: south florida

By biased do you mean that various media don't agree with your bias.

Duggy

It don't matter who agrees, the truth is the fact 955 of the news is left out , lies, and controlled, they make or break any person they are told, there is no free press, none. You can find more truth on alternative media , I have listened for over a decade , what turns out to be true , is eventually forced out into the main stream media only because they cant hide it anymore. If anyone goes against the popular PC crowd they, are replaced. That is the # 1 reason America is in the mess it is. The media approves of the terrorist , rapes, murders, so called migrants in Europe which they rarely report the hell unleached on the citizens of Europe if police speak out they are thrown out, the media cant write truth, and US news barely mentions the truth. so agree or not We are heading downhill reguardless .

ole sarg Loc: south florida

There everywhere, everywhere under the bed, in the closet, on the street just everywhere those evil conspirators! Those suppressors of truth, justice and the American Way!

Duggy wrote:

It don't matter who agrees, the truth is the fact ... (show quote)

waywest Loc: las vegas

only fox is biased? really?

dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl

ole sarg wrote:

I wonder what crest toothpaste's agenda is or for that matter any advertiser?

All this nonsense about agendas is just that nonsense. Do you think an advertising salesperson for a network goes into a dark room and says to the client: "Just how do you want us to present a story on X?"

Be serious!

Actually, yes. Programmers and "the money" guys are NOT going to do anything that will irritate their funding (commercial buyers). Therefore, you will see many programs that lean heavily toward the wants/needs of the advertisers. They aren't quite the same as the dedicated 30minute commercials but they are pretty slanted. It took (literally) and act of congress to get beer advertisers to put the disclaimers on their ads and wine and hard liquor ads were illegal. Cigarettes still are but that again is a political thing and if the networks could, they would continue to carry them.

Nelson.I Loc: Monument, Colorado, USA

pipesgt wrote:

You don't know who to believe anymore.
This is a seven minute video. Quite interesting implications.
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Scary, mostly by implication. All of us, regardless of political persuasion must be alert to the fact that, more so than any time in the past, images can be manipulated so completely as to be believable yet completely false. Manipulated to arouse our anger or sympathy or loyalty. All of us are susceptible!

Take note of which organizations, at least outwardly, attempt to protect the veracity of their images and those that don't. FOX News, for example, is an organization that has argued successfully in court that it is not required to be truthful in its reporting, that it can, in fact, completely, knowingly lie in its news. It is quite probable that other "news" organizations have paid close attention to the ruling.

Search, using Google, for this: "Court of appeals + Fox News + Jane Akre" and see what pops up.

ole sarg Loc: south florida

You have conflated two different issues!

The disclaimers prior to the Congressional Act were a matter of advertising policy but not a matter of news policy!

If memory serves, there were many news reports regarding the ill effects and affects of smoking.

http://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/21/2/87.full

in 1953 Life carried a long story on smoking and cancer and cigarette advertising was a major source of income for the mag at that time.

dcampbell52 wrote:

Actually, yes. Programmers and "the money&qu... (show quote)

waywest Loc: las vegas

yeah, it's fox news thats the problem - just ask brian williams

CA_CanonUser Loc: Friendswood, TX

I was interviewed for the local TV news several years ago (when they used film cameras) and the asked me 6 questions. I provided 6 answers. That evening they had cut and spliced such that they aired questions 1 and 5 along with answers 3 and 6. So even then they could "make the news" say whatever they wanted. Never trust a news interview where the interviewer and interviewee are not in the scene together!!

denoferth Loc: Portsmouth, NH

ole sarg wrote:

I wonder what crest toothpaste's agenda is or for that matter any advertiser?

All this nonsense about agendas is just that nonsense. Do you think an advertising salesperson for a network goes into a dark room and says to the client: "Just how do you want us to present a story on X?"

Be serious!

It is actually quite serious and very simple in this day of mass social media. A wacko is "offended" about something or another, notes what company's are sponsoring it and starts a movement to boycott that product. A Google search will get you the names,address's and sometimes phone numbers of the CEO and board directors that are then spread out to millions of equally motivated activists who email and write letters threatening not only to never use their product ever again but tell everyone they know to do the same. In some circumstances they call/wright their representatives in government who then lean on the companies and you have the EPA, Nader or whomever killing the Corvair. Gun control, save the whales, Peta ads, porpoise in tuna nets, ban cougar hunting in Ca, ban trapping, etc, etc. all run that way. Any company that feels a drop in sales or feels there might be bad advertising will drop sponsoring whatever "offended" the fruitcakes. Perception is reality for those with no critical thinking ability - human caused global warming being only the latest prime example.

dlwhawaii Loc: Sunny Wailuku, Hawaii

Gives new meaning to the term "Talking Heads" on the news. Very scary.

One Rude Dawg Loc: Athol, ID

CA_CanonUser wrote:

I was interviewed for the local TV news several years ago (when they used film cameras) and the asked me 6 questions. I provided 6 answers. That evening they had cut and spliced such that they aired questions 1 and 5 along with answers 3 and 6. So even then they could "make the news" say whatever they wanted. Never trust a news interview where the interviewer and interviewee are not in the scene together!!

Never give interviews to the "news media", you are just setting yourself up to be edited into whatever they like. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Nelson.I Loc: Monument, Colorado, USA

waywest wrote:

yeah, it's fox news thats the problem - just ask brian williams

Um, Fox News isn't and wasn't punished for falsification ... Brian Williams was. What exactly is your point? Trust NBC News more? Some how I doubt it.