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Mar 14, 2016 21:06:44   #
martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida
 
I'll be the first to admit I struggle with these, so I just have to keep on practicing..


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Mar 14, 2016 21:09:04   #
ebbote Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
Very good Martin.

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Mar 14, 2016 21:10:15   #
icemncmth Loc: Oklahoma
 
I love black and white. I think for me it reminds me of when I was young and taking pictures. I love taking tweaking them and playing with them. Either now in PS or years ago in the dark room.

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Mar 14, 2016 21:28:01   #
Erv Loc: Medina Ohio
 
Beautiful Marten!!! I also love B/W.

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Mar 14, 2016 22:05:14   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
martinfisherphoto wrote:
I'll be the first to admit I struggle with these, so I just have to keep on practicing..


Martin, these are very good. The last one is a tad weak, but all in all a very good effort.
--Bob

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Mar 14, 2016 22:34:15   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
I'm interested to hear what it is you are unhappy with. Can you talk a bit more in detail?

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Mar 15, 2016 06:17:48   #
martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida
 
Hey Linda,
Filling a frame with a 11-16mm lens to start with is a challenge. I did ok on these, but they lack true whites and enough blacks for what I'm aiming for. To find the perfect balance is Tough. I can't see in B&W yet.
Linda From Maine wrote:
I'm interested to hear what it is you are unhappy with. Can you talk a bit more in detail?

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Mar 15, 2016 06:32:14   #
DwsPV Loc: South Africa
 
martinfisherphoto wrote:
I'll be the first to admit I struggle with these, so I just have to keep on practicing..


Just wondering> what would happen if you dropped/ raised your horizon to a rule of thirds line?

Secondly, what is your PP strategy. Straight convert from color to B/W and what program are you editing in?

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Mar 15, 2016 06:42:45   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
if you like B&W try shooting infrared.

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Mar 15, 2016 07:09:29   #
Indrajeet Singh Loc: Goa, India
 
martinfisherphoto wrote:
I'll be the first to admit I struggle with these, so I just have to keep on practicing..


Excellent! Very creative!

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Mar 15, 2016 07:54:23   #
jeryh Loc: Oxfordshire UK
 
Try it in color- different perspective.

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Mar 15, 2016 07:59:07   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
martinfisherphoto wrote:
Hey Linda,
Filling a frame with a 11-16mm lens to start with is a challenge. I did ok on these, but they lack true whites and enough blacks for what I'm aiming for. To find the perfect balance is Tough. I can't see in B&W yet.


Thanks. Yes, a wide angle lens is a challenge and mine gathers dust for too long at a time because I have exhausted local subjects :)

You are shooting across an expanse of water so your elements are going to be even smaller. My favorite ultra-wide shots usually include something very close to draw me into the scene.

I'm also wondering if you have subjects or scenes where you could shoot "less" - a single or small group of trees, the near shoreline with reflections or down into the water. Or using another lens to zoom in on just one piece of cloud/tree/reflection combo?

One way that helps remove color when viewing is to squint :) My dslr has a monochrome setting so I can view the composition in b&w on the LCD, but the color raw is unchanged (then I edit the raw for a b&w finish). It has helped a huge amount in re-training my eye the past couple of months I've been using.

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Mar 15, 2016 09:43:04   #
Bloke Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
 
martinfisherphoto wrote:
I'll be the first to admit I struggle with these, so I just have to keep on practicing..


Keep practicing by all means, but there is nothing wrong with these! Yes, your subjects are small, but with the sky and the reflection, you have no problem in filling the frame anyway...

I do a lot of landscape work with my 10-18mm, so I understand the issue about wide angle lenses, but I just think they make the image so much more *expansive*... That lens is now pretty much dedicated to my IR camera, which I am looking forward to using a lot this summer. The Rokinon 14mm will be spending a lot of time on the 5DII, so that is even wider!

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Mar 15, 2016 09:43:57   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
martinfisherphoto wrote:
I'll be the first to admit I struggle with these, so I just have to keep on practicing..


Very nice.....have you considered burning either the sky or reflection so that it adds the depth of delineation?

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Mar 15, 2016 10:58:40   #
rwilson1942 Loc: Houston, TX
 
I think you are getting there. I think #1 is your best in this group. On my monitor they all look a bit flat (not enough contrast) with #1 again being the best. Are you setting a white and black point when you process?

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