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Mar 5, 2016 09:02:24   #
joehel2 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ
 
BuckeyeBilly wrote:
Here is an example of what the agent wants:
http://tours.savannahhometours.com/558098

Here is information about what is needed to make this kind of presentation:
http://www.realtourvision.com/virtual-walkthrough-software.html


Thanks for posting the links.

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Mar 5, 2016 09:13:50   #
Dale40203 Loc: Louisville, KY
 
I think the realtor is looking for seamless panoramas, not walk throughs. Think Google 'street views".
Check this link and others by searching Google "virtual tour camera"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmqB7hQ_iaU

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Mar 5, 2016 09:35:56   #
alggomas Loc: Wales, United Kingdom.
 
In the UK you also need a licence to show you are competent enough to fly the thing!
Also I believe you cannot fly over residential areas.
What if someone was undressing or sunbathing?
However genuine your intentions are..

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Mar 5, 2016 09:43:09   #
Picdude Loc: Ohio
 
Sounds like David Pine would be a good guy to PM and see if he'll let you pick his brains. Every time I have looked into this kind of work it seems one of the biggest profit-determining factors is keeping a good firm grip on PP time. On top of your regular post software, a good HDR package would seem to be a must. Myself, I'm pretty turned off looking at a picture of living room or kitchen/dining room with big open windows or doors that frame out a white blob because the outside scene was blown out to get the inside exposure correct.

The 360deg pano views that you can mouse through are neat and I like them, but some people don't - and again, this increases your PP time which needs to be figured into your total cost of production.

I would think real hard before getting into drones at this stage. It is true - there are a lot more rules and certifications involved for using a drone for commercial use than there is for playing with one in your neighborhood. And for the typical 1/3 to 1/2 acre residential lot, any shots you get will be more of a novelty than really useful; frankly, you can get about as good an idea on small lots by looking them up on Google Earth.

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Mar 5, 2016 10:37:26   #
rdgreenwood Loc: Kennett Square, Pennsylvania
 
I'm betting what they really mean is HDR. It's all the rage in RE photography at the moment, so I'd say, "Sure, I do 3D," and give him some nice, short-of-grunge HDR.

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Mar 5, 2016 10:40:11   #
mallen1330 Loc: Chicago western suburbs
 
Here's the latest in "3D" walk-through software: http://matterport.com

I suggest reading a few of the articles at: http://photographyforrealestate.net to get a feel for what's involved...

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Mar 5, 2016 11:01:03   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
I'll be happy to answer any question I can via private message. If I don't know the answer I will try to direct whomever to a place where they can get an answer.
Picdude wrote:
Sounds like David Pine would be a good guy to PM and see if he'll let you pick his brains. Every time I have looked into this kind of work it seems one of the biggest profit-determining factors is keeping a good firm grip on PP time. On top of your regular post software, a good HDR package would seem to be a must. Myself, I'm pretty turned off looking at a picture of living room or kitchen/dining room with big open windows or doors that frame out a white blob because the outside scene was blown out to get the inside exposure correct.

The 360deg pano views that you can mouse through are neat and I like them, but some people don't - and again, this increases your PP time which needs to be figured into your total cost of production.

I would think real hard before getting into drones at this stage. It is true - there are a lot more rules and certifications involved for using a drone for commercial use than there is for playing with one in your neighborhood. And for the typical 1/3 to 1/2 acre residential lot, any shots you get will be more of a novelty than really useful; frankly, you can get about as good an idea on small lots by looking them up on Google Earth.
Sounds like David Pine would be a good guy to PM a... (show quote)

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Mar 5, 2016 11:08:06   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
I agree. They probably are referring to HDR and quite possibly tours or slideshows. I got away from HDR because it makes potential buyers mad that a property doesn't reflect the real deal. It's better to not enhance a property beyond good taste. Real estate agents don't want mad potential buyers nor do they want to waste their time. Sellers, on the other hand love it. It's almost a "Catch 22". I do recommend twilight shoots. Both buyers and sellers like these images.
rdgreenwood wrote:
I'm betting what they really mean is HDR. It's all the rage in RE photography at the moment, so I'd say, "Sure, I do 3D," and give him some nice, short-of-grunge HDR.

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Mar 5, 2016 11:25:21   #
Picdude Loc: Ohio
 
DavidPine wrote:
I agree. They probably are referring to HDR and quite possibly tours or slideshows. I got away from HDR because it makes potential buyers mad that a property doesn't reflect the real deal. It's better to not enhance a property beyond good taste. Real estate agents don't want mad potential buyers nor do they want to waste their time. Sellers, on the other hand love it. It's almost a "Catch 22". I do recommend twilight shoots. Both buyers and sellers like these images.


Interesting about the HDR. How do you resolve getting a good exterior exposure through a picture window while maintaining the interior exposure? Or have you found that this really is more of a non-issue with buyers and sellers? Just curiosity on my part.

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Mar 5, 2016 11:27:53   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
DavidPine wrote:
I agree. They probably are referring to HDR and quite possibly tours or slideshows. I got away from HDR because it makes potential buyers mad that a property doesn't reflect the real deal. It's better to not enhance a property beyond good taste. Real estate agents don't want mad potential buyers nor do they want to waste their time. Sellers, on the other hand love it. It's almost a "Catch 22". I do recommend twilight shoots. Both buyers and sellers like these images.


I do remember him telling me that some states are starting to look unfavorable at very wide angle photos being they make things look bigger than they really are. That seem crazy because I kind of wonder how a single photo can show everything without being a wide angle???

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Mar 5, 2016 11:37:50   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
mallen1330 wrote:
Here's the latest in "3D" walk-through software: http://matterport.com

I suggest reading a few of the articles at: http://photographyforrealestate.net to get a feel for what's involved...


Having read a few articles, I noticed one about pricing rates. One guy goes for $30 (USD) because of the Fed average being close. Would that be including travel or just on site.

I hope travel because some are far from each other, unless there is a two tier pricing. Where price is based on site plus travel mileage.

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Mar 5, 2016 11:55:14   #
mallen1330 Loc: Chicago western suburbs
 
GENorkus wrote:
Having read a few articles, I noticed one about pricing rates. One guy goes for $30 (USD) because of the Fed average being close. Would that be including travel or just on site.

I hope travel because some are far from each other, unless there is a two tier pricing. Where price is based on site plus travel mileage.

I apologize for directing you to another forum, but there is a lively debate over pricing and business philosophy here:

http://photographyforrealestate.net/2016/03/03/what-should-i-charge-to-shoot-expensive-upper-end-homes/
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One guy goes for $30
do you mean $30 per photo?

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Mar 5, 2016 12:03:07   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
I make every effort to shoot twilight. This gives you a greater dynamic range, in my opinion, and wonderful contrast. It's hard to make a wonderful full-daylight image.
Picdude wrote:
Interesting about the HDR. How do you resolve getting a good exterior exposure through a picture window while maintaining the interior exposure? Or have you found that this really is more of a non-issue with buyers and sellers? Just curiosity on my part.


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Mar 5, 2016 14:48:33   #
Picdude Loc: Ohio
 
DavidPine wrote:
I make every effort to shoot twilight. This gives you a greater dynamic range, in my opinion, and wonderful contrast. It's hard to make a wonderful full-daylight image.


Thank you for the explanation and accompanying pictures. I see now how this would work and understand more the points made about shooting at twilight.

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Mar 5, 2016 19:40:23   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
mallen1330 wrote:
do you mean $30 per photo?


Sorry.

The responder's e-book used an average based on what the US Bureau of Labor Statistics said about the 2015 average hourly rate for professional and business services being $29.77 per hour. He used $30 per hour for a reference only.

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