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Feb 4, 2016 12:15:29   #
jhud202 Loc: Prineville, OR
 
Lazy J wrote:
First time attempting to print a canvas pano and cannot seem to get my aspect ratio straight out of Lightroom CC (i.e., Merge > Panoramic) to match the aspect ratio of the canvas I am attempting to print (16" by 48" or 3:1) without cutting off about one-third of the photo. Can someone offer some assistance?

I have attempted exporting (RAW to JPEG) by photo dimensions (i.e., 16 X 48), pixel size (i.e., 2850 X 7650), etc. Cannot seem to get a handle on it?

So, how do I get my pano shot to match the 3:1 aspect ratio without lopping off the photo loosing the composition effect of a pano? Is this a crop or a zoom issue?

Probably a simple fix (I hope) but one I have never encountered before so need an assist.

Thanks in advance for your feedback!
First time attempting to print a canvas pano and c... (show quote)


When you are in LR, activate the crop module and go into the aspect ration section and choose custom. In that module, enter the size you want the finished product (L & W-says aspect ratio, but don't worry about that) and hit the enter key. That will bring a crop box for those dimensions onto the photograph and you can size it via the handles to wherever the crop fits your vision. The finished, exported photo will be the size you need regardless of the "aspect ratio".

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Feb 4, 2016 13:05:59   #
twillsol Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
Lazy J wrote:
Thank you BullMouse, but my problem is that "big one" is not like any other image.

I need to somehow fit a 3:1 aspect ratio into a 2.68:1 aspect ratio as I am just not willing to lose that much of the photo capture. Completely ruins the pan effect.

For information purposes, my pan is the result of stitching four landscape photos, if that makes any difference.

Still need to hear from that UHH printing guru. Thx!


Sorry, but 3:1 does not equal 2.68:1. What you want to do cannot be done.

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Feb 4, 2016 13:19:31   #
DGStinner Loc: New Jersey
 
Lazy J wrote:
For information purposes, my pan is the result of stitching four landscape photos, if that makes any difference.


One tip for the next time you plan on shooting a panorama, shoot the individual images in portrait orientation. You'll need more images to cover from left to right but you wind up with more detail top to bottom.

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Feb 4, 2016 13:49:03   #
Smokey66 Loc: Hanover, ON, CA
 
Lazy J wrote:
First time attempting to print a canvas pano and cannot seem to get my aspect ratio straight out of Lightroom CC (i.e., Merge > Panoramic) to match the aspect ratio of the canvas I am attempting to print (16" by 48" or 3:1) without cutting off about one-third of the photo. Can someone offer some assistance?

I have attempted exporting (RAW to JPEG) by photo dimensions (i.e., 16 X 48), pixel size (i.e., 2850 X 7650), etc. Cannot seem to get a handle on it?

So, how do I get my pano shot to match the 3:1 aspect ratio without lopping off the photo loosing the composition effect of a pano? Is this a crop or a zoom issue?

Probably a simple fix (I hope) but one I have never encountered before so need an assist.

Thanks in advance for your feedback!
First time attempting to print a canvas pano and c... (show quote)


Are you going to stretch the canvas on stretcher bars?

If yes, is the frame size you want 48" x 16"?

If yes again, and you want to wrap the image around the sides of the frame, you actually need to print about 53" x 21" for 1-1/2" stretcher bars.

What size of cell can you get in Lr>Print module?

I think there is a way to downsize your canvas in Photoshop without cropping, though my knowledge of Ps is at the beginner stage so I cannot help you there.

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Feb 4, 2016 13:51:04   #
big-guy Loc: Peterborough Ontario Canada
 
To continue, when the crop is finished and top to bottom fills the entire height but left and right are cropped you can take that image into PS and put a 2" (or whatever your stretch bars are) mirror top and bottom and then save back to LR. If you have the opposite effect, left to right are full and top and bottom are cropped then do the same thing but mirror the left and right side. When printing choose the wrap option and then you end up (sort of) getting more of the photo shown on canvas albeit on the outside edges, either top and bottom or left and right. Unless of course, you use a floater frame which hides the edges and if that is the case, choose the black or white edging option so the max amount of the photo shows on the front surface with nothing hidden around the edges.

Remember, you can choose standard sizing top to bottom AND left to right. Standard sizes are 8", 12", 16", 20", 24", 30", 36", 40", 48". So to help with the panorama format you could choose a 12"x48" or a 20"x48" if that fits more of the photo. Choosing a custom size is always more expensive but as they say, if you throw enough money at a problem it will fix itself. Alas, there is no one size fits all when it comes to printing a panorama for canvas or paper, all are uniquely sized. As has been said before, make sure you get more than you need and give yourself some wiggle room.

jhud202 wrote:
When you are in LR, activate the crop module and go into the aspect ration section and choose custom. In that module, enter the size you want the finished product (L & W-says aspect ratio, but don't worry about that) and hit the enter key. That will bring a crop box for those dimensions onto the photograph and you can size it via the handles to wherever the crop fits your vision. The finished, exported photo will be the size you need regardless of the "aspect ratio".

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Feb 4, 2016 14:45:58   #
BullMoose Loc: Southwest Michigan
 
jhud202 wrote:
When you are in LR, activate the crop module and go into the aspect ration section and choose custom. In that module, enter the size you want the finished product (L & W-says aspect ratio, but don't worry about that) and hit the enter key. That will bring a crop box for those dimensions onto the photograph and you can size it via the handles to wherever the crop fits your vision. The finished, exported photo will be the size you need regardless of the "aspect ratio".


The whole question was not how to crop (the OP knows how to do that), it was how to make a stitched pano fit into a predetermined size (aspect ratio in his words).

From what he has to work with, he just simply can not do what he wants without cropping off portions of his image.

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Feb 4, 2016 15:03:15   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
How far off are you? Is there a chance you could clone image material into the empty areas? I think you'd need to "build" about 5 inches onto the ends. The other option is of course to "take a little off the top". (My barber used to do that all the time, no need anymore:) )

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Feb 4, 2016 20:43:58   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
Steve Perry wrote:
This one:

http://youtu.be/OIxgSZV7lPY

Plus, there's a link in the description on that page for a set of actions that do everything you see in the video. Enjoy :)


Neat actions... tried them, seemed to do very nicely.

Good tip!
:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Feb 4, 2016 21:30:45   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
Dngallagher wrote:
Neat actions... tried them, seemed to do very nicely.

Good tip!
:thumbup: :thumbup:


Thanks :)

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Feb 4, 2016 21:51:57   #
Bob Boner
 
You won't be able to print it 16 x 48 without cropping. That is because the aspect of your image is not 1:3. As you have seen, you would have to crop the width to less than 48 to get 1:3. To make it 48 wide, the height would have to be more than 16. Any attempt to force the file you have to a 1:3 aspect ratio, would require distorting the scene, something I doubt you want to do. You have established the aspect ratio by producing the file. You can crop some of it out to get a 1:3 aspect ratio, but you can't use the entire file to make a 1:3 image.

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