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Feb 2, 2016 01:25:33   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Some would say photography is art others would say it is not, that it is technique. Yet I suggest that, like the particle-wave duality in physics, photography is both art and technique. It is both left and right brained. Depending on the subject one or the other may dominate. So which is the harder part for you?

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Feb 2, 2016 02:50:02   #
PaulG Loc: Western Australia
 
I think photography is an art form, like any creative form of expression.

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Feb 2, 2016 03:01:28   #
Macronaut Loc: Redondo Beach,Ca.
 
PaulG wrote:
I think photography is an art form, like any creative form of expression.
I think so too. I would also think that most artists develop technique to achieve the desired results from whatever medium they are using.

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Feb 2, 2016 03:43:31   #
mallen1330 Loc: Chicago western suburbs
 
EVERYTHING is both art and technique, talent and engineering, innate and learned. Photography, like a sculptor's chisel, or a writer's keyboard, is a tool that CAN be used to create "art" or not. The product of such tools is art when it evokes a designed response in the viewer and is intended to do so. Even snapshots of family do that. We elevate this to what we call "art" when the response is more universal and based on our appreciation of the evident skill, technique, and talent in addition to the emotional power of the work.

You're right, "It is both left and right brained", but, "art" VS "technique" is a false duality. Art is a judgement we make. Technique is learning to use tools.

I don't know the answer to your question, "...which is the harder part for you?"

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Feb 2, 2016 04:05:35   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
JD750 wrote:
Some would say photography is art others would say it is not, that it is technique. Yet I suggest that, like the particle-wave duality in physics, photography is both art and technique. It is both left and right brained. Depending on the subject one or the other may dominate. So which is the harder part for you?

Neither, I do not care (signature).

Point of view:

You can 'create' 'art' out of garbage and/or out of a skilled use of technology.

One can pretend to be an 'artist' (many do) but reality says otherwise, skilled or unskilled. This concerns everything and not exclusive to photography.

The problem is not about what 'it' is but how 'it' is perceived. From there, eye of the beholder and all that poopy stuff.

'Creativity' exists only in 'young' untrained minds that do not know any limit, are not influenced by habits, social mores and technology. Creativity is often accompanied with insanity because it does not fit any norm and refuses to accepts walls. Some lucky 'creators' do not 'grow up' and stay 'insane'. Most build their own walls to protect their insanity and become stale and boring inside the enclosure created* **. The lucky ones who stay free evolve in time or more likely than not their vision becomes more extreme with time.

The truly debiles*** in all that are those who try to associate themselves with the 'insane' using $$$ and influence to collect 'art'. A 'con artist' knows that and will create 'art' in order to access an acceptance and social status as 'artist', knowing they are frauds. Barnum infamous quote comes to mind here.

IRL I am more interested in 'fools' and 'originals' than anyone else. I owe them.

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* This creates folks only able to produce the same thing over and over, unable to move on, that is the case of 90% of 'originals'.
** Usually against 'outside elements' who want, demand conformity.
*** Old english = feeble (implies 'of mind' in this context).

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Feb 2, 2016 04:15:54   #
mallen1330 Loc: Chicago western suburbs
 
Rongnongno wrote:
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I thought you were going to sleep hours ago!

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Feb 2, 2016 04:34:09   #
Leicaflex Loc: Cymru
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Neither, I do not care (signature).

Point of view:

You can 'create' 'art' out of garbage and/or out of a skilled use of technology.

One can pretend to be an 'artist' (many do) but reality says otherwise, skilled or unskilled. This concerns everything and not exclusive to photography.

The problem is not about what 'it' is but how 'it' is perceived. From there, eye of the beholder and all that poopy stuff.

'Creativity' exists only in 'young' untrained minds that do not know any limit, are not influenced by habits, social mores and technology. Creativity is often accompanied with insanity because it does not fit any norm and refuses to accepts walls. Some lucky 'creators' do not 'grow up' and stay 'insane'. Most build their own walls to protect their insanity and become stale and boring inside the enclosure created* **. The lucky ones who stay free evolve in time or more likely than not their vision becomes more extreme with time.

The truly debiles*** in all that are those who try to associate themselves with the 'insane' using $$$ and influence to collect 'art'. A 'con artist' knows that and will create 'art' in order to access an acceptance and social status as 'artist', knowing they are frauds. Barnum infamous quote comes to mind here.

IRL I am more interested in 'fools' and 'originals' than anyone else. I owe them.

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* This creates folks only able to produce the same thing over and over, unable to move on, that is the case of 90% of 'originals'.
** Usually against 'outside elements' who want, demand conformity.
*** Old english = feeble (implies 'of mind' in this context).
Neither, I do not care (signature). br br u Poin... (show quote)



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Feb 2, 2016 06:55:35   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
PaulG wrote:
I think photography is an art form, like any creative form of expression.


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Feb 2, 2016 06:56:25   #
rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin
 
JD750 wrote:
Some would say photography is art others would say it is not, that it is technique. Yet I suggest that, like the particle-wave duality in physics, photography is both art and technique. It is both left and right brained. Depending on the subject one or the other may dominate. So which is the harder part for you?

Locating my brain...

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Feb 2, 2016 09:40:21   #
wilsondl2 Loc: Lincoln, Nebraska
 
Sandwich makers at Subway re artists according to their CEO - Dave

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Feb 2, 2016 09:41:12   #
Blasthoff Loc: Life halved NY and IN
 
Photography is a "skilled craft". It is a craft that is sometimes used as a medium to create "Art". I think the concepts often get very confused among folks. The most notable "photography" is quite often a combination of both.

However, adding to what I've said this far, to relate to "photography" as being a form of "Art" would be wrong, the two, are mutually exclusive. "Pictures don't lie", "A picture tells a thousand words". On the other hand, "ART"..."Art is a lie that makes us realize truth", as declared by Picasso. All of these statements are definitively true which, kind of leads to a hardline conflict between the two and yet, there isn't a line at all. Artistic expression can manifest itself doing anything. It's the great thing about being human.

"Hi, left brain", "Meet right brain." I always forget which is which, but it doesn't matter as long as their in the same head. I love my brains. As to which is harder? I guess I'd have to say the intuitive side since I just haven't seemed to be able to use it or exercise it much for awhile.

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Feb 2, 2016 09:45:33   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
For me, photography is an art form that takes on many different aspects. Black & White like Ansel Adams Images. I consider that art. Color..from Landscapes to Abstract items. That is art.
JD750 wrote:
Some would say photography is art others would say it is not, that it is technique. Yet I suggest that, like the particle-wave duality in physics, photography is both art and technique. It is both left and right brained. Depending on the subject one or the other may dominate. So which is the harder part for you?

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Feb 2, 2016 10:05:54   #
jim quist Loc: Missouri
 
If I run my photo thru Corel Painter I call it art, if not I call it photography.

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Feb 2, 2016 10:45:30   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
JD750 wrote:
Some would say photography is art others would say it is not, that it is technique. Yet I suggest that, like the particle-wave duality in physics, photography is both art and technique. It is both left and right brained. Depending on the subject one or the other may dominate. So which is the harder part for you?


If photography was not art for me, I would have become bored with this hobby a long time ago.

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Feb 2, 2016 10:55:35   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
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