dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Here in the US they tend to be two kinds of job:
1. low skill, low pay that a lot of people consider beneath them. So migrants, legal and illegal come for them.
2. high skilled and tech jobs that a lot of our slacker drop out generation are not qualified for because they lack the education/training. Even many of our college "educated" don't qualify because they got degrees in soft fields that qualify you for nothing. I mean how many jobs are there for many of these degrees in "*%^$#@ Studies". But the computer, science, math etc jobs go empty or the companies import students from the Tech Universities in India and China. The highly skilled crafts also often have unfilled slots due to lack of people with the right training.

At the same time there are millions of unemployed who have none of the education or training to fill these jobs. Many slid through on "social promotion" or dropped out and don't even meet the qualifications for the training programs to fill these jobs.

At my last school I had many students in 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th grade classes whose functional reading level was only 1st to 3rd grade. A lot more were in the 5th to 7th grade level. How they were supposed to handle 10th grade World History, 11th grade US History or 12th grade Government and Economics books is beyond me. If I tried to read the book or give them the material in a lecture they got bored or didn't even have the vocabulary to understand what I said. Taking time to explain meant that the other students got bored and tuned out. So all suffered because some got "social promotions", I am sure it was worse for the math and science teachers.

The graduation test in California was written in aprx 7th grade English and every year we had some fail it. Many others never took it because they had dropped out. We often had 1200 to 1400 or more in the 9th grade and 4 years later only 700-800 graduating. (The school never dropped below about 4500 and a few years was just over 5000 during my 13 years there.)

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

met a guy on a pipeline job inside shell refinery in deer park texas on the houston ship channel. he had designed jobs, inspected jobs, manged jobs. couldn't get a job as a pipe fitter. they actually told him he was over qualified. :roll: :roll: :roll:

what else?

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Once many years ago (60s) my father was visiting in CA. He saw a listing for a job as electrical inspection department foreman in one of the aircraft factories. In WW II he had worked his way up to being one of three shift foremen of the electrical inspection department of a Packard Motors plant that built Rolls Royce Merlin engines. So just for the heck of it he went in and took the test for the job. He scored a 92 on the test and of course he had the experience. He didn't get the job, he hadn't graduated from high school, he had left 6 weeks before graduation to work for Packard. He had a GED he earned while working at Packard. The job went to a college graduate, who scored 78 on the test and had no experience.

The guy giving the test and his boss both told my Dad they were sorry but government regs said "college graduate" for the job.

bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.

my take on causes fo unfilled jobs.

1 unrealistic demands of job skills.
2 companys that by-pass O.J.T. and want somebody else to supply it.
3 a lack of vocational and trade schools under the educational system
4 companys that by-pass American workers for foreign workers that they can hire for lower wages and fewer bennifits.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

From what I've seen, pay is too low, and benefits are non-existent or a joke. "Jobs Americans don't want to take" are jobs no one should take. There are so many part time and minimum wage workers with no benefits and salaries so low that they can't afford to spend money to keep the local stores open. Our local mall is just about dead, but new dollar stores are springing up everywhere.

When I was a kid, a man would have a fulltime job, be the sole worker in his family, and have a house and a car, medical ins, and retirement. Now, it's mostly executives who have jobs like that.

I've been on quite a few cruises, and they have international crews, but relatively few Americans. Talking to some of the workers, I found out why. It's one step above slave labor. Anyone working on a cruise ship is subsidizing the company.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Paperwork trumps reality.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

:thumbup:

When was the last time you called tech support and got someone in the USA?

Don Fischer Loc: Antelope, Ore

They could fill a huge number of those job's by eliminating welfare!

Don Fischer Loc: Antelope, Ore

They could fill a huge number of those job's by eliminating welfare!

Sirsnapalot Loc: Hammond, Louisiana

An older fellow once told me that when he was young he could go to the store with one dollar and buy a wheel barrel full of bread, he said, now days since all the government give-a-way programs, when you go to the store, you need a wheel barrel full of money to buy one loaf of bread! The only ones not worried about the high prices are those with there hands in the pockets of the tax paying workers! Our dollar is inflating like a snowball rolling down a snow covered mountain with no end in sight! Where is the incentive, why take a job when the government will give you everything you need!

AzGriz Loc: Sedona, Arizona

Why would anyone want a job, when all you have to do is buy a camera and immediately become a professional photographer?

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

the old days no one took the job till they woke up an paid better. but they didn't likeus having that power over them. so they had goverment cut holes in the border fence. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: