How about we either add to the confusion, or maybe clear it up a bit.
Back in the 'good old days' - 1971 - when I bought my first SLR . . . I chose the less expensive Nikkormat FTn and a 50mm f2 lens. The other option was the Nikon F with the FTn finder/prism and a faster 50mm lens, either a 1.8, a 1.4, or a 1.2. I consider my combination definitely 'amateur' equipment.
I also have a Nikon FG, and a Nikon N 6006, which I also consider 'amateur' cameras - compared the the various Nikon F2, F3, F4, Fetc. film cameras.
Today - what DSLR cameras are considered the 'Pro' cameras and what are considered 'Amateur' cameras?
Thanks
at least for the brand I shoot, a higher shutter life (150,000+ clicks) and weather sealing (body and lenses).
I'll give the obvious answer--the pro camera is the one used by a pro while the amature camera.....well, you know.
Though with Nikon, I believe the single digit models are pro while the four digit models are amature....for everything in between; hard to say.
Cdouthitt wrote:
at least for the brand I shoot, a higher shutter life (150,000+ clicks) and weather sealing (body and lenses).
Yes, I agree - durability & generally 'robust' count as a 'pro' feature.
hlmichel wrote:
I'll give the obvious answer--the pro camera is the one used by a pro while the amature camera.....well, you know.
Though with Nikon, I believe the single digit models are pro while the four digit models are amature....for everything in between; hard to say.
Yes, of course - like you say.
But, would a 'seasoned pro' really be likely to buy the 'baby of the family?' (As the primary camera, that is - rather than a back-up or spare?)
JC56
Loc: Lake St.Louis mo.
A pro can take a great photo with a pinbox. Do you think Ansel Adams used a digital pro zx 32000 565 megadixal camera? BTW I'm a rank amenteur..but I can tell a pro photo when I see one.
JC56 wrote:
A pro can take a great photo with a pinbox. Do you think Ansel Adams used a digital pro zx 32000 565 megadixal camera? BTW I'm a rank amenteur..but I can tell a pro photo when I see one.
I'm pretty sure Ansel Adams used various large format view cameras, and I read, somewhere, that he also used Hasselblads. IMHO they qualify as 'pro' cameras.
twowindsbear wrote:
hlmichel wrote:
I'll give the obvious answer--the pro camera is the one used by a pro while the amature camera.....well, you know.
Though with Nikon, I believe the single digit models are pro while the four digit models are amature....for everything in between; hard to say.
Yes, of course - like you say.
But, would a 'seasoned pro' really be likely to buy the 'baby of the family?' (As the primary camera, that is - rather than a back-up or spare?)
Well yes. I was feeling a bit naughty when I posted and then went back later to add to it.
To be honest, I still do not understand the numbering system used by Nikon. I once thought that 4 digit were the amature models, the 3 digits were advanced amature, 2 digits were semi pro and the single digits were the pro.
JC56
Loc: Lake St.Louis mo.
That he did but he was using 19th century technolgy....Here's a challenge...go buy an 1890 Hasslblad large format and see if you can match any of old Ansels photos.
twowindsbear wrote:
How about we either add to the confusion, or maybe clear it up a bit.
Back in the 'good old days' - 1971 - when I bought my first SLR . . . I chose the less expensive Nikkormat FTn and a 50mm f2 lens. The other option was the Nikon F with the FTn finder/prism and a faster 50mm lens, either a 1.8, a 1.4, or a 1.2. I consider my combination definitely 'amateur' equipment.
I also have a Nikon FG, and a Nikon N 6006, which I also consider 'amateur' cameras - compared the the various Nikon F2, F3, F4, Fetc. film cameras.
Today - what DSLR cameras are considered the 'Pro' cameras and what are considered 'Amateur' cameras?
Thanks
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Nikons "Pro" bodies have always had one thing in common, single digit names. F, F2, F3, F4, F5, D1, D2, D3 and now D4 (Many with a letter added to designate a specialty of that particular body ie. D3S and D3X, etc.)
JC56 wrote:
A pro can take a great photo with a pinbox. Do you think Ansel Adams used a digital pro zx 32000 565 megadixal camera? BTW I'm a rank amenteur..but I can tell a pro photo when I see one.
That begs the question. On the Nikon side, pros use the D3's and D4's. Pros also use larger format film cameras.
I use the term "pro" to mean an individual who makes their livelihood from photography, not an avid amateur who make a little money every once in awhile.
MT Shooter wrote:
twowindsbear wrote:
How about we either add to the confusion, or maybe clear it up a bit.
Back in the 'good old days' - 1971 - when I bought my first SLR . . . I chose the less expensive Nikkormat FTn and a 50mm f2 lens. The other option was the Nikon F with the FTn finder/prism and a faster 50mm lens, either a 1.8, a 1.4, or a 1.2. I consider my combination definitely 'amateur' equipment.
I also have a Nikon FG, and a Nikon N 6006, which I also consider 'amateur' cameras - compared the the various Nikon F2, F3, F4, Fetc. film cameras.
Today - what DSLR cameras are considered the 'Pro' cameras and what are considered 'Amateur' cameras?
Thanks
How about we either add to the confusion, or maybe... (
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Nikons "Pro" bodies have always had one thing in common, single digit names. F, F2, F3, F4, F5, D1, D2, D3 and now D4 (Many with a letter added to designate a specialty of that particular body ie. D3S and D3X, etc.)
quote=twowindsbear How about we either add to the... (
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Are the 'new' D-series cameras as 'robust' as the F-series cameras?
The D3 and D4 bodies are direct descendants of the pinnacle film SLR, the F5. They share much of the same frame structure and weather sealing styles. They are built like Abrahms tanks and meant to last virtually forever and stand up to most anything short of a direct hit in a war zone.
JC56 wrote:
That he did but he was using 19th century technolgy....Here's a challenge...go buy an 1890 Hasslblad large format and see if you can match any of old Ansels photos.
That would be a bit diffiicult since the Victor Hassleblad was born in the early1900's, but I get your drift. Ansel knew what he was doing, technically AND asthetically. I think another poster here atteneded one of his workshops.
JC56
Loc: Lake St.Louis mo.
"I think another poster here atteneded one of his workshops."[/quote]
That had to be cool...I watched a documentry on ole Ansel..he was kind of a Curmudgeon..but he had the right to be.
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