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Dec 29, 2015 07:42:27   #
The Saint KK4GO Loc: Florida
 
RConrad06 wrote:
I have been looking into acquiring my very first DLSR camera and up until now have been using my grandfathers Canon rebel xti and my fathers Canon Rebel t5i. I am looking into the Canon EOS 7D but was wondering if the Nikon D7200 wouldn't be better for stills. I plan on using it for my kids sporting events and for taking weddings and other family portraits. I'd like to start a small photography business/hobby but was unsure of which way to head. How do the lenses stack up with each? Any information would be greatly appreciated. I have heard that Canon has a better lineup with cameras taking videos but Nikon is better off on stills. I also heard that Nikon has a little bit better set of lenses versus Canon
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Hands down, Canon 7DmII for sports and low light. 10 FPS capture speed and a gazillion focus points. Fast lenses like Canon 'L' series lens help too. Just my 2c worth.

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Dec 29, 2015 07:55:58   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
I shoot Nikon.
That stated, I strongly recommend that you buy Canon. You have a distinct advantage with access to Canon lenses owned by other family members. Glass is the REAL expense in photography, not the camera. Try as many lenses as you can to see what length primes &/or zooms appeal to you.


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Dec 29, 2015 07:58:55   #
Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia
 
RConrad06 wrote:
I have been looking into acquiring my very first DLSR camera and up until now have been using my grandfathers Canon rebel xti and my fathers Canon Rebel t5i. I am looking into the Canon EOS 7D but was wondering if the Nikon D7200 wouldn't be better for stills. I plan on using it for my kids sporting events and for taking weddings and other family portraits. I'd like to start a small photography business/hobby but was unsure of which way to head. How do the lenses stack up with each? Any information would be greatly appreciated. I have heard that Canon has a better lineup with cameras taking videos but Nikon is better off on stills. I also heard that Nikon has a little bit better set of lenses versus Canon
I have been looking into acquiring my very first D... (show quote)


I think any camera among the top brands will work BUT your approach is all wrong. First mistake, coming in here and asking. What you will get it, I have this one or that one and I like it. None of which is helpful. Second, not doing your own research. Before you can drive a car, you need a license. You need to practice with a trainer. Before you buy, you canvass the car lots, test drive and view adds, reviews, etc. The same goes for cameras. While cameras are one side of the puzzle, lenses are the second and most important. This is not a profession or the hobby for the faint of heart. It can be expensive. BUT equipment is only one part and the least important part. Knowledgeable of composition and light is the most important and that trumps equipment every time. You can get award winning shots and do exceptionally well with average equipment. This is the hardest lesson to learn. We think that equipment will make the difference. It doesn't. No, I am not comparing low end with high end but basic, well made equipment works just fine.

Consider refurbished or used. Why, there are so many new cameras out there. There is a new one every couple of months. Many in here ditch there cameras for new ones thinking that the newer camera will make the difference. It doesn't but that means you can find good equipment at a low cost, if you know what to look for. Again, do your home work, don't follow the trends or hype.

And I am going to quietly - "unwatch" this post as I already know where it is going.

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Dec 29, 2015 08:21:29   #
revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson
 
RConrad06 wrote:
Thank you for the input. I love all of the quick feedback! Do you know how well the Canon EOS 70D stacks up for darker pictures? I want to be able to take some darker photos but don't need it to be the best.


Here are pictures I took in Ireland when the sun was down and almost pitch dark with my 70D. I read that the sensor in the 70D was a new highly sensitive one in low light and has proven so. Note the low "noise" factor (scattered extraneous little dots) in these although taken on the auto setting and jpg format(a slightly compressed not so sharp as RAW--something you'll have to study).









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Dec 29, 2015 08:24:46   #
tiger1640 Loc: Michigan
 
Just remember that the camera is only a "tool" knowledge of how to take a picture lighting composition posing all play into a great picture.Learn as much as you can about photography and you could use any camera to take a great picture.

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Dec 29, 2015 08:27:18   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
RConrad06 wrote:
I have been looking into acquiring my very first DLSR camera and up until now have been using my grandfathers Canon rebel xti and my fathers Canon Rebel t5i. I am looking into the Canon EOS 7D but was wondering if the Nikon D7200 wouldn't be better for stills. I plan on using it for my kids sporting events and for taking weddings and other family portraits. I'd like to start a small photography business/hobby but was unsure of which way to head. How do the lenses stack up with each? Any information would be greatly appreciated. I have heard that Canon has a better lineup with cameras taking videos but Nikon is better off on stills. I also heard that Nikon has a little bit better set of lenses versus Canon
I have been looking into acquiring my very first D... (show quote)


Just my opinion.

What are you familiar with? Canon.

Which is better for sports? Canon.

Which is better for wedding photography? A draw.

Which has a better lens line up? Canon.

Which is better for portraits? Nikon in studio.

Which is better for landscapes? Probably Niko... Oh, you did not mention landscapes.

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Dec 29, 2015 08:38:09   #
revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Just my opinion.

What are you familiar with? Canon.

Which is better for sports? Canon.

Which is better for wedding photography? A draw.

Which has a better lens line up? Canon.

Which is better for portraits? Nikon in studio.

Which is better for landscapes? Probably Niko... Oh, you did not
mention landscapes.


Here's Canon 70D landscapes. Looks pretty good to me. But then it's my baby and I'm prejudiced.





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Dec 29, 2015 08:38:48   #
RConrad06 Loc: Mansfiled, Ohio
 
I just realized that I put the wrong canon camera on my post I was looking at. I was comparing the Canon EOS 70D to the Nikon D7200, one of the things that caught my attention with the Nikon was the dual memory card slot. Was thinking it could be useful if I was able to run a back up while taking pictures I case one of the cards went corrupt. Both cameras are not too far apart in price (a couple 100) and just wanted some opinions on the Nikon since I've mainly shot canon. I have been doing my research on both brands and one of my stops was different message boards as well as people to see which brand they ran with, why that brand and if they felt they wished they would have went the other way. I'm not relying solely on this board for my full decision but will take in all input on my consideration. Again thanks everyone for all of the input and tips you have provided.

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Dec 29, 2015 08:43:42   #
RKL349 Loc: Connecticut
 
RConrad06 wrote:
I have been looking into acquiring my very first DLSR camera and up until now have been using my grandfathers Canon rebel xti and my fathers Canon Rebel t5i. I am looking into the Canon EOS 7D but was wondering if the Nikon D7200 wouldn't be better for stills. I plan on using it for my kids sporting events and for taking weddings and other family portraits. I'd like to start a small photography business/hobby but was unsure of which way to head. How do the lenses stack up with each? Any information would be greatly appreciated. I have heard that Canon has a better lineup with cameras taking videos but Nikon is better off on stills. I also heard that Nikon has a little bit better set of lenses versus Canon
I have been looking into acquiring my very first D... (show quote)


Go to a camera store and hold both and see which one fits your hands and eye better. If your father and grandfather have additional lenses, you may want to consider Canon more since you could share lenses with them. Both are excellent cameras and both have a great choice when it comes to lenses. Don't rule out Sony, Olympus, Pentax, etc.

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Dec 29, 2015 09:03:29   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
RConrad06 wrote:
I have been looking into acquiring my very first DLSR camera and up until now have been using my grandfathers Canon rebel xti and my fathers Canon Rebel t5i. I am looking into the Canon EOS 7D but was wondering if the Nikon D7200 wouldn't be better for stills. I plan on using it for my kids sporting events and for taking weddings and other family portraits. I'd like to start a small photography business/hobby but was unsure of which way to head. How do the lenses stack up with each? Any information would be greatly appreciated. I have heard that Canon has a better lineup with cameras taking videos but Nikon is better off on stills. I also heard that Nikon has a little bit better set of lenses versus Canon
I have been looking into acquiring my very first D... (show quote)


Generally those who use Canon will suggest a Canon and those who use Nikon will do the same. I suppose it's human nature and a way we validate our choices. I won't do that.

I suggest that you compare the features/specs on the models you've narrowed it down to. Here is a link to do that: http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras

That will compare the features and specifications. I would read the reviews as well. Then go to a brick and mortar retail shop and compare the two side-by-side for feel, comfort, etc. Compare the accessibility of the various controls. They are not standardized.

If you are most people-- you'll make this choice once-- and then commit yourself by adding lenses. Don't rush this process & not do your "homework".

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Dec 29, 2015 09:05:07   #
Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia
 
revhen wrote:
Here are pictures I took in Ireland when the sun was down and almost pitch dark with my 70D. I read that the sensor in the 70D was a new highly sensitive one in low light and has proven so. Note the low "noise" factor (scattered extraneous little dots) in these although taken on the auto setting and jpg format(a slightly compressed not so sharp as RAW--something you'll have to study).


Two identical images (size, settings, etc) , one raw and one jpeg will be equally sharp. Sharpness is not an jpeg vs raw difference or argument. If that were true, NO ONE WOULD EVER SHOOT JPEG. As for the images themselves, I don't see camera or lens qualities. I see simple composition and light. I don't see the point you are trying to make other than you have that camera and you like it.

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Dec 29, 2015 09:57:18   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
As mentioned prior, they're both good.

Do a little legwork and see what the locals in your town and photo club(s) use.

All though it is normally good help here on ugly, it would help to have something you don't have to use the Internet to get advise for when in a jam.

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Dec 29, 2015 10:00:16   #
alfeng Loc: Out where the West commences ...
 
RConrad06 wrote:
I have been looking into acquiring my very first DLSR camera and up until now have been using my grandfathers Canon rebel xti and my fathers Canon Rebel t5i. I am looking into the Canon EOS 7D but was wondering if the Nikon D7200 wouldn't be better for stills. I plan on using it for my kids sporting events and for taking weddings and other family portraits. I'd like to start a small photography business/hobby but was unsure of which way to head. How do the lenses stack up with each? Any information would be greatly appreciated. I have heard that Canon has a better lineup with cameras taking videos but Nikon is better off on stills. I also heard that Nikon has a little bit better set of lenses versus Canon
I have been looking into acquiring my very first D... (show quote)

First, I love Canon products ...

.....I had three Canon SLRs (TL, Pellix, F-1) ... unfortunately, they were all lost in a burglary.

.....I still have a couple of vintage, Leica-Thread-Mount rangefinder Canons ... suh-weet!

BUT, unless you have more than 50mm lenses on the two "inherited" cameras, then you may want to consider a different product line ...

BECAUSE, once you buy into Canon's digital cameras you will either be married-to-it OR possibly-and-probably suffer a huge financial loss if you decide to switch to a non-Canon at some time in the future ...

BECAUSE Canon's flange-to-"film"-plane distance is shorter than most ...

And so, your only future option (which is not a bad option) would probably be a mirrorless camera BECAUSE Canon may change their lens mount yet again.

Personally, I have a couple of humongous (IMO) Panasonic 4/3 (a DSLR) camera bodies + diminutive-by-comparison m4/3 (mirrorless) bodies ...

......Diminutive is good.

FWIW. If you are planning on a "business" AND if the choice is only between Canon & Nikon then I think you should probably consider a Nikon.

BTW. As disclosure, I have to tell you that in addition to the Canon 35mm cameras which I had-or-have, I also (still) have Nikon & Olympus OM-series 35mm cameras ... and, MY observation is that both the Nikon & Olympus Zuiko lenses were better than similar-focal-length Canon (film) lenses which I had ...

That was then ... also, I can't say about how Canon's & Nikon's current ZOOM lens optics compare AND/OR how the auto-focusing of the two compare.

.....I use the Nikkor & Zuiko "film" lenses on my 4/3 & m4/3 camera bodies.



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Dec 29, 2015 10:01:45   #
WALL
 
Take a look at Sony. The SLR as we know it may be on the way out.

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Dec 29, 2015 10:06:35   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
WALL wrote:
Take a look at Sony. The SLR as we know it may be on the way out.


Sony makes the best mirrorless cameras.

But the Sony A77II is a MUCH better sports camera than the 7DII for nearly HALF the price. And it shoots faster, has better autofocus and a far superior AF system to the D7200...again, for SUBSTANTIALLY less money.

:thumbup:

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