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So... The FAA says no to free drone... Impact on videographers?
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Dec 14, 2015 15:46:36   #
tomw
 
Big Bill wrote:
http://www.faa.gov/news/updates/media/20151213_IFR.pdf

The proposed interim rules. Long, but instructive.
These drones, depending on exactly what the final rules will be, could be very expensive.

This is fairly extreme. The weight limit includes batteries, and is so low that only the smallest model helicopters intended primarily for indoor use are exempted. Most hobbyist line-of-sight models would be covered.

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Dec 14, 2015 15:50:29   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Different issue but it is correct. Since the FAA reaches outside our border that will be like an oil spill before long.


There is the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO---pronounced eye-kay-oh), that most if not all countries belong to that sets regulations for all things aviation. Member countries can have stricter regulations than ICAO standards, but not go below the minimums.

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Dec 15, 2015 06:31:53   #
mikegreenwald Loc: Illinois
 
JD750 wrote:
Although personally I can understand it, the Feds have frowned upon landowners shooting down drones. And it's not really an option in the city.

However, what if I were to launch my own "attack drone" and down the invading drone with the attach drone? That would be entertaining!


' sounds like an opportunity for the paint ball crowd!

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Dec 15, 2015 06:45:47   #
NormanTheGr8 Loc: Racine, Wisconsin
 
Dan821 wrote:
Is this registration so that they can return the ones shot down by angry citizens being "spied" upon, to their rightful owners?
Just asking...


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Dec 15, 2015 08:44:00   #
bcrawf
 
JD750 wrote:
Although personally I can understand it, the Feds have frowned upon landowners shooting down drones. And it's not really an option in the city.

However, what if I were to launch my own "attack drone" and down the invading drone with the attach drone? That would be entertaining!


It is (always was?) a federal offense to shoot at an aircraft, so there is nothing new there.

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Dec 15, 2015 08:57:42   #
Goldyrock
 
If you use a Drone for commercial photography, the FAA rules say you must be a licensed pilot and have an observer.
I was going to use it for my Real Estate photos, but the cost to obtain the license would be prohibitive for the return on the investment.

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Dec 15, 2015 08:59:42   #
bcrawf
 
Goldyrock wrote:
If you use a Drone for commercial photography, the FAA rules say you must be a licensed pilot and have an observer.
I was going to use it for my Real Estate photos, but the cost to obtain the license would be prohibitive for the return on the investment.


Please give a source reference for that information. Thanks.

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Dec 15, 2015 09:17:19   #
thelazya Loc: Wendell, MN
 
As a hobbyist I'm saving up for one.

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Dec 15, 2015 09:45:50   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
Rongnongno wrote:
According to recent reports US hobbyists 'must register drones' from 21 December

I take this as good news as we have enough spying going around w/o having to seal with the sky over our head (Did the celts got it right with their fear of 'sky falling?).

Anyway, the National Press Photographers' Association is against it which is no surprise. A few were starting to build businesses around drones and not being able to do whatever places a scrimp on that.

Price of registration? $5.00. Fine for not registering? $27,500.00. Better think twice before giving a drone in Christmas stocking!!!

AFTER this long preamble... How many here use drones as professionals, meaning selling what they captured from a drone?
According to recent reports b US hobbyists 'must ... (show quote)


Since no one else is answering your question, I won't start.

The basic rules of flying a drone limit them to a minimum and maximum altitude, limit them over populated areas (such as stadiums), and limit the horizontal approach to a functioning airport. These are for small drones.

The US$5 registration fee is nothing when people are shelling out Hundreds or Thousands of $ for drones.

This is all an example of success being its own worst enemy. Too many drones in the hands of people who either don't or won't adhere to the rules (like them or not). Public safety is still number 1.

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Dec 15, 2015 09:47:49   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
bcrawf wrote:
Please give a source reference for that information. Thanks.


I am not absolutely sure but requiring a pilots license was proposed. I don't think it went far yet, but I expect to see this in any final regulations regarding commercial activity over populated areas at least.

I see this as overkill for say a farmer wanting to place a thermal imager on his drone and look for plant stress on his acreage.

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Dec 15, 2015 09:50:28   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
Dan821 wrote:
It would be entertaining!
I guess the best thing to come out of this is that you can record the registration number of the offending drone, and report it!


With the size of the drones, how do expect to be able to read the registration number before it smacks you in the face? No, the theory is they can track offending/lost drones to their owner and take action.

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Dec 15, 2015 09:53:18   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
Kuzano wrote:
The government is looking for Drone Pilots. Many of the Middle East drones are flown by civilian employees from site in the United States. Just saw a jobs available posting on the internet a couple of days ago, specifying civilian contractors.

So why buy a drone one must register, when the government will pay you to do mayhem in foreign countries with the "real thing Drones".. . . .


Knowing an Air Force drone pilot, be aware that armed drones are flown only by trained active duty military drone pilots. These guys, specifically trained as drone pilots, work in a pressure cooker on long shifts with numerous eyes looking over their every move.

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Dec 15, 2015 10:11:52   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Goldyrock wrote:
If you use a Drone for commercial photography, the FAA rules say you must be a licensed pilot and have an observer.
I was going to use it for my Real Estate photos, but the cost to obtain the license would be prohibitive for the return on the investment.

Thank you.

First legitimate answer on the topic.

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Dec 15, 2015 10:18:48   #
sagittta Loc: In the woods of Michigan
 
The ruling include all model aircraft over .5 pounds, not only those which we think of as drones.

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Dec 15, 2015 10:22:58   #
peterg Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
 
bcrawf wrote:
Please give a source reference for that information. Thanks.
There's a lot of misinformation floating around. I suggest starting at the FAA home page, http://www.faa.gov or http://www.faa.gov/uas/. There are links that explain registration requirements including marking a UAS (e.g. drone), hobbyist vs commercial operations, when flight plans are required or encouraged, operating near crowds, etc.

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