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Dec 8, 2015 13:42:37   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
If you simply must have a longer telephoto capability, the 16--300 VR is a good, sharp, do-all lens. It's not a small lens, but it's not huge, either. $699.00 at Best Buy and B&H.

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Dec 8, 2015 14:50:53   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
Although I'm a Canon user, I had a pretty similar experience, and it leads me to conclude that you'll be happier with the 18-105. When I bought my first Canon DSLR, it had the standard 18-55 kit lens, and I found that pretty limiting. After a short while, I bought a wider range zoom that included the 18-55 range, and the kit lens became redundant, and never came off the shelf after that.

snapclick47 wrote:
Hi All,

I have, like most people who travel a few places, taken fancy to serious photography, because the mobile clicks are just not doing justice to the fantastic scenery i have witnessed in few of my trips.

So the process began and all things considered(mostly the size of my pocket), have narrowed down to the camera body I would like to go with. I have finalized it to get the Nikon D5200.

But, then came the choice of lenses.. and that was the point I had to stop reading and start asking questions as well. Hence this account, and this forum.

So, after innumerable considerations, and disappointments of a smaller pocket(not being able to afford smart ass glasses like the 16-85), I am more or less convinced, to start off with a single lens(most likely a kit lens), and see about which lenses i would like to add to my bag as I expolore and grow as a photographer. And as i grow, decide what kind of better zoom lens I would want(conspicuously eyeing the 70-300).

That said, search has led me to these three basic models of lenses, which I cannot choose from based on just reading already existing posts:

1. Standard kit 18-55 VR lens. (Seems inadequate to most people on a single lens system)

2. Kit lens 18-105 VR lens. (Seems to be one I am angling towards at the moment, mostly due to the direct adaptability of polarizing filters(the non rotating zoom part))

3. Kit lens 18-140 VR lens. (Might be too big, I do plan to go on a dual/multiple lens system in future, and i dont believe in the "one lens for all" philosophy).


That said, I am honestly lost with all these numbers, and a bit overwhelmed I must say. So, i would like the experts here to take some of their valuable time and give me some pointers with my measly little doubts.

Please feel free to tell me my entire thought process is wrong, and I need to start from scratch.. Or the D3300 would be a better choice over the D5200? Or I should stick to the standard 18-55, 55-200 dual lens system from the word go! I would prefer doing that, rather than to sell my system, and search for a new one.


Thanks in advance.

Cheers!
Sc31
Hi All, br br I have, like most people who travel... (show quote)

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Dec 8, 2015 16:26:55   #
rocketride Loc: Upstate NY
 
snapclick47 wrote:
My concern is with the polarizing filter especially. On the 18-55 I need to first zoom the desired amount, and then put the filter on.. Because the front end rotates with zoom.

On 18-105, the front end is fixed with whatever zoom, so I can put the filter and not worry about adjusting my zoom later, because it keeps straight.

How does it behave with the 18-140?

Cheers!
Sc47.


With zoom or focus? The front of a lens rotating with focusing has been common. (Canon finally seems to be moving well away from lenses that suck in this way.) I've never heard of a lens whose front rotates while zooming, though.

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Dec 8, 2015 17:16:32   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
I was in California this past summer and brought just one camera and two lenses (both of them kit lenses); I made the decision because I planned on walking a lot and didn't want to carry a lot of weight. I used the 18-55 the majority of the time. I regretted not having my 70-300 only once, when I came across two bucks locking antlers in combat; the 55-200 was adequate to the task.

I wouldn't underestimate the photo quality of the kit lenses; my Nikon 18-55 is a sharp little lens. I keep the VR "off" because of the time I put it on a tripod and forgot to turn it off. A day's full of waterfall photos were too blurry to be used for anything.

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Dec 8, 2015 19:03:37   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
snapclick47 wrote:
Hi All,

I have, like most people who travel a few places, taken fancy to serious photography, because the mobile clicks are just not doing justice to the fantastic scenery i have witnessed in few of my trips.

So the process began and all things considered(mostly the size of my pocket), have narrowed down to the camera body I would like to go with. I have finalized it to get the Nikon D5200.

But, then came the choice of lenses.. and that was the point I had to stop reading and start asking questions as well. Hence this account, and this forum.

So, after innumerable considerations, and disappointments of a smaller pocket(not being able to afford smart ass glasses like the 16-85), I am more or less convinced, to start off with a single lens(most likely a kit lens), and see about which lenses i would like to add to my bag as I expolore and grow as a photographer. And as i grow, decide what kind of better zoom lens I would want(conspicuously eyeing the 70-300).

That said, search has led me to these three basic models of lenses, which I cannot choose from based on just reading already existing posts:

1. Standard kit 18-55 VR lens. (Seems inadequate to most people on a single lens system)

2. Kit lens 18-105 VR lens. (Seems to be one I am angling towards at the moment, mostly due to the direct adaptability of polarizing filters(the non rotating zoom part))

3. Kit lens 18-140 VR lens. (Might be too big, I do plan to go on a dual/multiple lens system in future, and i dont believe in the "one lens for all" philosophy).


That said, I am honestly lost with all these numbers, and a bit overwhelmed I must say. So, i would like the experts here to take some of their valuable time and give me some pointers with my measly little doubts.

Please feel free to tell me my entire thought process is wrong, and I need to start from scratch.. Or the D3300 would be a better choice over the D5200? Or I should stick to the standard 18-55, 55-200 dual lens system from the word go! I would prefer doing that, rather than to sell my system, and search for a new one.


Thanks in advance.

Cheers!
Sc31
Hi All, br br I have, like most people who travel... (show quote)

The 18-105 has a long and honorable history. It has gotten even better along the way. For a smaller lens, it has a lot of positives.

I'm not a fan of the dual zoom kit lens sets. You get the compromises of the zoom but still have to change lenses in the middle of a shoot. If you do need to go longer, then the 18-200 range in Sigma or Tamron or Tokina are good lenses. They are lighter than my Nikon 18-200.

Another possibility to look at if you don't do video, is the Sony a6000 which has dropped in price. Add an 18-200 Sony or Tamron lens. This is the one I carried around Europe last summer and got magnificent results. Very light. Very full features, competitive with any of the DSLRs. You can get them right now for $5-600. Now that David Busch has written a decent manual for it, I like it. (I wasn't happy with the Gary Friedman book)

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Dec 8, 2015 21:40:07   #
Shoot Happens
 
I think you are on the right track with your thinking. I learned long ago that if you become serious with your photography, the camera and lens you buy today will likely not be adequate as your skills and expectations improve.
With that in mind, any of your choices are fine for you as a new photographer.
Go out with your new camera and lens and take a ton of photos, experiment a lot with all different types of images, read lots of material, keep in touch with sites like this one and learn, learn, learn. As you get better, you will realize what type of photography you enjoy the most and what limitations your gear will have to fully enjoy the type of photography you enjoy. That will help you determine where you go next. Right now you only have an idea of what you want to do. It is only once you learn and take lots of photos that your journey will become clearer.
One of my favorite sayings is: "If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there".
You won't know what gear is the best for you until you start shooting with something and find your passion.
Good luck on your journey.

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Dec 9, 2015 18:44:32   #
adamsg Loc: Chubbuck, ID
 
While I have a less expensive D3100, I was able to buy it with and 18-55 lens and got a deal where they threw in a 55-300 for an extra $100. The two lenses make a fine combination for me as my principal interests are landscape and nature photography. They have served me very well.

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Feb 5, 2016 05:32:55   #
snapclick47
 
charles brown wrote:
First, let me say that I agree with all the others concerning the 18-140 VR lens. Have borrowed one and it is on my list as my next purchase. As for which camera to get, was in the same position as you just a few months ago. Narrowed my choice down to the 5200 and the 3300 (cost being biggest factor) Went into the store and handled both. I ended up getting the 3300 because of the way it felt in my hands. I suggest you do the same before making your choice. How it feels in your hands is an important factor in camera selection. The 3300 may be an entry level camera but it can do some amazing things and I have found that the kit lens (18-55) can take some great photos. As a side note the 18-55 with the 3300 is different than the 18-55 with the 5200.
First, let me say that I agree with all the others... (show quote)


Thank you charles brown, I did the same as you said, and even I found the d3300 to fit well in my hand and move around. Seems more confortable, without the hassle of the flip out stuff(which I dont need anyway). The only thing that stopped my from buying it is the number of AF and cross AF points. thats 39 vs 11 and 9 vs 1 for the D5200 and D3300 respectively. On paper it feels like a huge difference. Does it really matter in actual practice? I do not see myself doing sports photography, but i will shoot some motorcycles for sure.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers!
sc47.

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