Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Romans 1:20

because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them.For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.

Yes amen, God gave us evidence of His creation in what He has made here on Earth and in the heavens....thank you Lord Jesus!

shagbat Loc: London

You have never been correct and never will be until you leave your world of fear and fantasy. Why involve others, why TRY to spread YOUR misery?

James Shaw

We have all read those passages Clown. You usually resort to reading scripture, like you do here, when you cannot come up with anything rational to say to UHH visitors.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

This is what puts James IN HIS PLACE! LOL @ james claiming he put me in my place LOLOLOL...


Let us see how well you can do here, please try to refute these arguments.

Now enough of this nonsense with the atheists in here. if you can not answer or refute these claims, you lose the argument, this includes making the excuse that there is nothing to refute.....you still loose.

Provide one example where information comes from anything other than intelligence?

Because there is none, not one.

INFORMATION CAN ONLY COME FROM AN INTELLIGENT SOURCE-LarG.

"According to Lyle's principal the best explanation is the one that invokes a cause which we know from our experience which can produce the effect we are trying to explain."- Stephen Meyer. <<< prove this to be wrong if you can.

"There is only one known cause for information, that is Intelligence"- Stephen Meyer

<<< I would love to see anyone come up with a better explanation, so far nobody has even attempted to challenge this with an better alternative theory..just ridicule and ad hominem attacks.

For such inference to work, the cause invoked must now be known to produce the effect in question. It's no good proposing flying squirrels as the cause of the Grand Canyon, or a silt deposit as the cause of the Pyramids. Squirrels don't dig giant canyons or even small ones, and silt doesn't move heavy stone blocks into an ordered three-dimensional array.

However, we know from our experience that erosion by running water can and does produce gullies, then arroyos, and by extension, canyons. We know that intelligent agents have the necessary design capabilities to envision and build a pyramid. No natural force does. These are inferences based on our present knowledge of cause and effect or "causes now in operation."

"In our experience the only thing capable of causing the origin of digital code or functional information or causal circularity is intelligence and we know that the origin of life and the origin of animal life, for example, required the production of just such things in living systems.

The theory of intelligent design does not propose a mechanism (a strictly or necessarily materialistic cause) for the origin of biological information. Rather, it proposes an intelligent or mental cause. In so doing, it does exactly what we want a good historical scientific theory to do. It proposes a cause that is known from our uniform and repeated experience (to borrow a phrase) to have the power to produce the effect in question, which in this case, is functional information in living systems.

shagbat Loc: London

A sad one at that!

shagbat Loc: London

It has become more sad! Where does he get the medication?

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

Sorry, there's no sense to continue responding to you, you already lost because you refuse to address the issues I posed to you. Have a good night my friend, prayers lifted up for you and your precious family. I bid well to you and your loved ones.

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James Shaw

James Shaw

Is it Clown's bedtime?

shagbat Loc: London

You are like a child, (though with a considerably lower I.Q.) you have to have the 'last tap'. You may, but you can never win an arguement because you cannot think for yourself.

LarJgrip Loc: The Fraser Valley

You make a lot of statements suggesting that you have answers, why don't you refute Racs statements and settle this once for all.

I don't understand, if you know he's wrong and all he's got is mythology why not use your "science and common sense" to prove him wrong.

You've got everything going for you, truth, a higher IQ and a self thinker, man this should be a walk in the park for you.

shagbat Loc: London

One cannot argue with a fool who uses others' words. Rac and you are religious nutters, you are not for changing anymore than I will ever have an imaginary friend!

LarJgrip Loc: The Fraser Valley

Yet you keep coming back…. Sounds like a cop out to me.
:lol:

shagbat Loc: London

Actually, I'm mocking you for your own lack of intelligence, in obeyance to your dog, who does not exist.

LarJgrip Loc: The Fraser Valley