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Oct 22, 2015 12:06:32   #
bdk Loc: Sanibel Fl.
 
I stayed with CS6 it does all I need but I'll check out the link above...

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Oct 22, 2015 12:15:06   #
ptcanon3ti Loc: NJ
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
I pay only $7.99/month for CC.


how? why?

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Oct 22, 2015 12:23:20   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Confused. I went to their site. They talk about their plug-ins.

"The Photo Bundle includes all of our award-winning photography plug-ins: Blow Up, Exposure, and Snap Art"


What do they plug-in to? What other software do I need to already own that their products plug-in to? Their site does nto seem to have a stand alone product. Or is it just a problem with how they are marketing?

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Oct 22, 2015 13:10:04   #
Stevewayne23 Loc: Sacramento, CA
 
Been looking for something to replace Aperture and haven't pulled the plug yet. Trying Emulsion but lots of bugs. How's the organization aspects? Plug-in support?

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Oct 22, 2015 13:26:51   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
Mark7829 wrote:
I don't do minimal or basic post processing. I use PS and I use all of the functions. Lightroom can not met my needs. There are too many tools and features in PS. What I find is that many do not understand the differences. The difference for me is like water vs Jamba juice. But if you never tasted the Jamba juice, you would never know.

What I tell my Clients when they ask about Photoshop, Lightroom, and Elements is that Photoshop is the shop, Lightroom is a room in the shop, and Elements are bits and pieces of the shop. They seem to understand that and, more importantly, none of my Clients have been unhappy with their choices.

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Oct 22, 2015 13:30:23   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Confused. I went to their site. They talk about their plug-ins.

"The Photo Bundle includes all of our award-winning photography plug-ins: Blow Up, Exposure, and Snap Art"


What do they plug-in to? What other software do I need to already own that their products plug-in to? Their site does nto seem to have a stand alone product. Or is it just a problem with how they are marketing?


What site did you go to?

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Oct 22, 2015 13:35:50   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
RRS wrote:
What site did you go to?


http://www.alienskin.com/photobundle/

It includes all their "plug-ins: Blow Up, Exposure, and Snap Art"

There is nothing on their site that would make me think they have a stand alone product.

If they have one, they have hidden it well!

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Oct 22, 2015 13:38:23   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Just found this on their site:

Host Requirements:

This product requires one of the following host applications:

Adobe Photoshop CS5 or newer
Adobe Photoshop Elements 10 or newer.

So it is not a stand alone. If you already own PS or PSE you are probably OK. But if you only have had the subscription, you could be out of luck.

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Oct 22, 2015 13:49:13   #
Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia
 
russelray wrote:
What I tell my Clients when they ask about Photoshop, Lightroom, and Elements is that Photoshop is the shop, Lightroom is a room in the shop, and Elements are bits and pieces of the shop. They seem to understand that and, more importantly, none of my Clients have been unhappy with their choices.


That how you define it, that's fine. If your clients don't complain, none the better. But if you really want to do creative and outstanding work, it is in PS. I totally understand, if you are getting paid for it, then don't do more than what will be paid. But there is more that you can do. For example, Focus Stacking. It is not available in LR, PE or anyone else. Yet it allows me to get a perfectly focused image without sacrificing DOF. By the way, my clients could not differentiate good from outstanding. That's why we are in the photography business because we can.

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Oct 22, 2015 14:06:29   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Just found this on their site:

Host Requirements:

This product requires one of the following host applications:

Adobe Photoshop CS5 or newer
Adobe Photoshop Elements 10 or newer.

So it is not a stand alone. If you already own PS or PSE you are probably OK. But if you only have had the subscription, you could be out of luck.


Blow Up, Exposure, and Snap Art are the three plugins included in the photo bundle. Blowup appears not to work as a standalone program
however Exposure and Snap Art are capable as working as standalone programs or as plugins (or both).

Adobe has pretty much captured most of the market for photo editing software so competitors have commonly adapted to offering functions which are not available easily to photoshop et al but most of these plugins usually have a host program that can be used in place of photoshop. Although this may be lacking other features that photoshop offers.

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Oct 22, 2015 14:07:21   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Just found this on their site:

Host Requirements:

This product requires one of the following host applications:

Adobe Photoshop CS5 or newer
Adobe Photoshop Elements 10 or newer.

So it is not a stand alone. If you already own PS or PSE you are probably OK. But if you only have had the subscription, you could be out of luck.


Thanks!

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Oct 22, 2015 14:15:40   #
GDRoth Loc: Southeast Michigan USA
 
It sounds like you have to provide your own DAM process if you make this switch

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Oct 22, 2015 14:19:46   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
GDRoth wrote:
It sounds like you have to provide your own DAM process if you make this switch


Exposure X is intended to do that, due at the end of 2015, if you get exposure 7 they are offering a free upgrade when it is out.

Its probably a bit premature to be singing its praises before its released.

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Oct 22, 2015 16:06:13   #
russelray Loc: La Mesa CA
 
Mark7829 wrote:
That how you define it, that's fine. If your clients don't complain, none the better. But if you really want to do creative and outstanding work, it is in PS. I totally understand, if you are getting paid for it, then don't do more than what will be paid. But there is more that you can do. For example, Focus Stacking. It is not available in LR, PE or anyone else. Yet it allows me to get a perfectly focused image without sacrificing DOF. By the way, my clients could not differentiate good from outstanding. That's why we are in the photography business because we can.
That how you define it, that's fine. If your clie... (show quote)

I'm not sure what you're trying to add to my comment. Nonetheless, many years ago I was using anything and everything to accomplish my tasks--Photoshop, Lightroom, Elements, Illustrator, InDesign, Draw, Photo-Paint, PaintShop Pro, GIMP, ACDsee, PicMonkey, and many others. After having several upgrades hit me at the same time, I decided to do something about it, and I chose Photoshop to accomplish all my work in since I knew that, with the learning effort on my part, it could do everything that all the other programs do. So I set out to learn. I was right. Everything that I was doing in all those other programs I now do in Photoshop. That means I don't have to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars a year in upgrades. Just $9.99 to Photoshop for Photoshop and Lightroom, but I don't use Lightroom at all.

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Oct 22, 2015 16:27:14   #
Mark7829 Loc: Calfornia
 
russelray wrote:
I'm not sure what you're trying to add to my comment. Nonetheless, many years ago I was using anything and everything to accomplish my tasks--Photoshop, Lightroom, Elements, Illustrator, InDesign, Draw, Photo-Paint, PaintShop Pro, GIMP, ACDsee, PicMonkey, and many others. After having several upgrades hit me at the same time, I decided to do something about it, and I chose Photoshop to accomplish all my work in since I knew that, with the learning effort on my part, it could do everything that all the other programs do. So I set out to learn. I was right. Everything that I was doing in all those other programs I now do in Photoshop. That means I don't have to spend hundreds or thousands of dollars a year in upgrades. Just $9.99 to Photoshop for Photoshop and Lightroom, but I don't use Lightroom at all.
I'm not sure what you're trying to add to my comme... (show quote)


We agree...what I have come to understand is that those who just know Lightroom think that Lightroom is enough. Those who know PS and LR always use PS for final, intricate and special work. Those who use PS already have all the editing functions and features of LR in ACR. While this post lists a replacement for LR which I think is great, it is not a replacement of PS.

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