Creating a website - Info needed
Oct 2, 2015 11:59:38 #
jerryc41 wrote:
I use Dreamweaver, and Wordpress is very popular.
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Oct 2, 2015 12:25:50 #
FYI:
While looking around, Google Web Design came up. In my "one day" of goofing around with it, it seems to be either all code or a lots of template pieces you have to insert where you need.
Has anyone used it before and have any other thoughts on it?
https://www.google.com/webdesigner/
While looking around, Google Web Design came up. In my "one day" of goofing around with it, it seems to be either all code or a lots of template pieces you have to insert where you need.
Has anyone used it before and have any other thoughts on it?
https://www.google.com/webdesigner/
Oct 2, 2015 12:30:53 #
Expression Web which was mentioned in someone else's post has the FTP built right into it. You don't need a separate FTP.
Oct 2, 2015 19:08:04 #
I am active in a local community of Adobe web developers using Dreamweaver. You can still BUY a coy of Dreamweaver Creative Suite 6 (CS6) for $399 or you can lease Creative Cloud (CC) for about $20/month as a single product. CC will keep you current to the latest updates in web technology.
There is a pretty advanced WYSIWYG mode where little code is required although you will need to learn the names of the different elements to insert. Or you can flip to the code view and enter html code manually. Most of us do a combination of both; using the Design view and then toggling the page into code view for more robust editing.
Good support in the number of books and on-line tips.
There is an included FTP client, however many of us use the FREE FileZilla FTP program.
I too started with HoTMetaL. The interface was quick, but the table technology it used for layouts has long since become poor practice. I moved to Dreamweaver in the pre-Adobe era (Macromedia) and have never looked back.
There is a pretty advanced WYSIWYG mode where little code is required although you will need to learn the names of the different elements to insert. Or you can flip to the code view and enter html code manually. Most of us do a combination of both; using the Design view and then toggling the page into code view for more robust editing.
Good support in the number of books and on-line tips.
There is an included FTP client, however many of us use the FREE FileZilla FTP program.
I too started with HoTMetaL. The interface was quick, but the table technology it used for layouts has long since become poor practice. I moved to Dreamweaver in the pre-Adobe era (Macromedia) and have never looked back.
Oct 2, 2015 20:07:16 #
I use Sandvox on a MacBookPro
It's very easy to use. It includes FTP software
It's used by people and small business all over the world
It's also priced very well.
Try it out.
It's very easy to use. It includes FTP software
It's used by people and small business all over the world
It's also priced very well.
Try it out.
Oct 2, 2015 21:18:12 #
nchrist260 wrote:
I use Sandvox on a MacBookPro
It's very easy to use. It includes FTP software
It's used by people and small business all over the world
It's also priced very well.
Try it out.
It's very easy to use. It includes FTP software
It's used by people and small business all over the world
It's also priced very well.
Try it out.
FYI: I run Windows.
Oct 5, 2015 15:11:40 #
I've been using, and still learning Wordpress. One issue I had which sounds like yours is that as long as I kept the theme constant, nothing bad happened. I just use the current theme, and do a lot of customizing on the individual pages.
I would love a "GOOD" WYSIWYG program, and wouldn't mind paying for it. The problem is that they all seem so stripped down and limited.
At least wordpress has a lot of things you can do to customize, and even stops me from doing dumb things, like laying out pages so big that you have to do a lot of scrolling to see everything.
I also like that if you look, you can find free reactive themes/templates. With today's technology leaning much more to tablets and phones (especially for my target audience) It is nice that I don't have to try to figure out how to work on either format.
Just my 2 cents, but my website isn't near what some I've seen are. (but probably better than some of the ISP free builders...I hope)
I would love a "GOOD" WYSIWYG program, and wouldn't mind paying for it. The problem is that they all seem so stripped down and limited.
At least wordpress has a lot of things you can do to customize, and even stops me from doing dumb things, like laying out pages so big that you have to do a lot of scrolling to see everything.
I also like that if you look, you can find free reactive themes/templates. With today's technology leaning much more to tablets and phones (especially for my target audience) It is nice that I don't have to try to figure out how to work on either format.
Just my 2 cents, but my website isn't near what some I've seen are. (but probably better than some of the ISP free builders...I hope)
Oct 5, 2015 22:45:06 #
bkyser wrote:
I've been using, and still learning Wordpress. On... (show quote)
As you stated, I would pay some also but not the high amount some programs want. Mainly because I don't really have plans to make a career with Web Development.
From all the Web editing programs I've checked out from this group and on my own, so far four showed good things. Of those four, I've narrowed the field to three under $100 (USD). Then I canceled the "pay as you use" and looked more in depth at the final two.
Upon considering things like abilities, reviews from others, my personal playing around with them, and the amount of lessons and "how to's" found on the internet, Komposer (sp?) wins hands down.
*(FYI: It's got wysiwyg, many codes available, and can display your work in a split screen by just clicking on a tab. One note I read says it is similar to Dreamweaver. )
As an additional bonus, it was a free download. No trial period either, just free!
I'm still looking around but so far, I'm happy.
Oct 6, 2015 09:08:23 #
GENorkus wrote:
As you stated, I would pay some also but not the h... (show quote)
That is great! I will take a look at it too. One question I have is that what has always driven me nuts about WP is that you kind of have to do things in batches and upload pages as you go. What I'd like to do is completely design my webpage off line, then upload it when I know everything is how I want it. Do you know if Komposer lets you do that?
Oct 6, 2015 10:01:54 #
bkyser wrote:
That is great! I will take a look at it too. One question I have is that what has always driven me nuts about WP is that you kind of have to do things in batches and upload pages as you go. What I'd like to do is completely design my webpage off line, then upload it when I know everything is how I want it. Do you know if Komposer lets you do that?
Yes. It is completely off line until you want to upload whatever you did. I know it has ftp abilities. Other upload methods are still a bit fuzzy right now.
What I've done was to create a simple webpage, copy-paste it to a WordPress "page" and then check out what happened.
The "page" turned into the complete WP. I think I could link to an image also. Kind of like using code and wysiwyg at the same time.
You can work on several WP's with just a click or two if necessary.
BTW: Most of the other programs let you work off line also.
Oct 6, 2015 14:15:41 #
My last 2 cents on this topic:
I looked into KompoZer about 5 years ago, and decided to spend money to update my Creative Suite from 3 to 5.5 which then also gave me newer versions of Photoshop and other Adobe programs.
This thread caused me to take a second look at Komp0Zer. The web, HTML and CSS are a rather dynamic world. It was surprising to see on KompoZer's website "Latest stable version: 0.7.10 (2007-08-30)" It looks like there is no longer a development team, and even the support forum is now an independent group.
It looks as though the code generated with KompoZer is adequate. I searched the support forum looking for sample websites created with the program and most were "fair."
If you are willing to learn some of the newer HTML and CSS commands and schemes and manually enter these to the generated code you can get a modern look a site. FO people wanting the satisfaction of creating their first site, the price is right.
Features like support for mobile, adaptive and responsive design (where the same source is displayed in different proportions to fit different devices) are not a part of KompoZer and never will be. HTML5 the new set of CSS conventions was introduced in 2014.
My opinion after looking at all of the reviews I could find and downloading the free program is that to create modern looking websites will require much manual coding and study of HTML and CSS.
ByTheWay - a good resource for HTML and CSS is found at http://www.w3schools.com/
I looked into KompoZer about 5 years ago, and decided to spend money to update my Creative Suite from 3 to 5.5 which then also gave me newer versions of Photoshop and other Adobe programs.
This thread caused me to take a second look at Komp0Zer. The web, HTML and CSS are a rather dynamic world. It was surprising to see on KompoZer's website "Latest stable version: 0.7.10 (2007-08-30)" It looks like there is no longer a development team, and even the support forum is now an independent group.
It looks as though the code generated with KompoZer is adequate. I searched the support forum looking for sample websites created with the program and most were "fair."
If you are willing to learn some of the newer HTML and CSS commands and schemes and manually enter these to the generated code you can get a modern look a site. FO people wanting the satisfaction of creating their first site, the price is right.
Features like support for mobile, adaptive and responsive design (where the same source is displayed in different proportions to fit different devices) are not a part of KompoZer and never will be. HTML5 the new set of CSS conventions was introduced in 2014.
My opinion after looking at all of the reviews I could find and downloading the free program is that to create modern looking websites will require much manual coding and study of HTML and CSS.
ByTheWay - a good resource for HTML and CSS is found at http://www.w3schools.com/
Oct 6, 2015 17:48:36 #
jcarlosjr wrote:
My last 2 cents on this topic: br br I looked int... (show quote)
You may be right about unsupported from the official site is dated 2010. http://www.kompozer.net/
As for support overall, a few others are probably taking over as seen here:
This was written May or 2015 and has info about responsive code within Kompozer (any editor could do this I would think.).
http://mbrsolution.com/tutorial/kompozer-responsive-settings.php
This was written June of 2014. (Just a comparison article.)
http://www.warriorforum.com/blogs/puedall/24153-dreamweaver-vs-kompozer-vs-wordpress.html
More info.
Unknown date here but does have links to other edit programs.
http://www.thesitewizard.com/kompozer/index.shtml
Here's a good link for code information.
http://www.quackit.com/
Oct 6, 2015 20:01:28 #
I've been using Dreamweaver for a long time now (CS4). The old version has a few quirks, but it does the job.
When Adobe went to the clouds, I looked around for a program to use in place of Dreamweaver in case I needed to change. I found Blue Griffon and downloaded and installed it. But I never got around to using it since Dreamweaver is still working just fine.
I started out writing HTML in a text editor and got used to writing the code, so I still do that in Dreamweaver. But now Dreamweaver finds the (many) errors in my code and I can clean it up more quickly. It does have built in FTP so when you make a change you can post it to your site easily and quickly.
When Adobe went to the clouds, I looked around for a program to use in place of Dreamweaver in case I needed to change. I found Blue Griffon and downloaded and installed it. But I never got around to using it since Dreamweaver is still working just fine.
I started out writing HTML in a text editor and got used to writing the code, so I still do that in Dreamweaver. But now Dreamweaver finds the (many) errors in my code and I can clean it up more quickly. It does have built in FTP so when you make a change you can post it to your site easily and quickly.
Oct 7, 2015 08:59:48 #
GENorkus wrote:
Yes. It is completely off line until you want to u... (show quote)
The offline with other programs was my experience too, just not wordpress.
I just want to make sure I understand what you are saying. You were able to use Kompozer, copy and paste the HTML, and upload it right into your Wordpress pages?
Oct 7, 2015 09:56:59 #
Yes I did. I copied the code from home computer, pasted it to a new WordPress page, and it showed up correctly except no pictures.
Then I uploaded a picture to the wordpress media section. Then I either, (don't remember the exact method) went back to my page or from the media page, edited one of them to accept the new media pic and it also worked.
Thinking about it further, I don't know why a seminar technique wouldn't work for links. I haven't tried linking yet but it probably will work also.
My reason for that is because most(?) all the editor programs just put code up to be read. However they do it doesn't matter as long as it's code to be read by the internet.
Something to think about and when I have more time, something to play around with to find out for sure.
Then I uploaded a picture to the wordpress media section. Then I either, (don't remember the exact method) went back to my page or from the media page, edited one of them to accept the new media pic and it also worked.
Thinking about it further, I don't know why a seminar technique wouldn't work for links. I haven't tried linking yet but it probably will work also.
My reason for that is because most(?) all the editor programs just put code up to be read. However they do it doesn't matter as long as it's code to be read by the internet.
Something to think about and when I have more time, something to play around with to find out for sure.
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