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Sep 26, 2015 11:52:14   #
lev29 Loc: Born and living in MA.
 
My apologies to all regarding my question about BATTERIES used in the current Sony ILC A- & E-mount series. I was tired & it was late; since then I looked up the two battery types & confirmed that the NP-FW50, aka the "50," battery is much lighter than the "500." Permit me to better articulate:

Since the "500" became the successor to the "50" in the A-mt series, I assume it is superior to it. Is it superior merely because it has greater mAh, and/or because of something else, e.g. greater endurance, recharge ability, different voltage, fewer leakage? Others have mentioned a group of people whom I bet they'd label as "Battery Whiners." I don't think I'm one of them; rather, I'd just like to know whether through reasoning related to the above questions or through the Sony Rumor Mill indicates DEVELOPMENT of a new type of battery for either Sony lens line.

I ask the above because if one travels and must bring along a variety of electronic devices, most of these will use different types of replaceable batteries. This, in turn, engenders bring multiple spare batteries in most cases plus a charger for each battery type. I have 3 Sony camera bodies that use 2 different battery types. If a new battery is developed that's not the same and/or has its terminals in a different location, then I'd have to schlep 3 or 4 kinds in the near future. So does ANYBODY know what's coming in the near future?
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Sep 26, 2015 12:44:33   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
lev29 wrote:
Cholly, thanks for the lateral view of the two generations of Sony a7 cameras as well as the above explanation. I would like to ask all as to what's known about those Sony BATTERIES currently used in digital ILC's?

Specifically, I find that the NP-FW50 battery is used in the A55, NEX ILC's, the a3000-6000 series, and the a7 FE ILC's. I forget the precise "letter" designation but I think the other battery is called something like NP-F500D. I found that it's being used in the A-mt ILC's after the a33/55 generation. Does anyone know the performance specifications for these two batteries? Why was one adopted as the battery of choice for E-mt cameras while the other for only A-mts? Is it due mainly to size difference?
lev29
Cholly, thanks for the lateral view of the two gen... (show quote)


Hello Doc... hope you are well.

Yes; there is a size and capacity difference between the A mount and E mount batteries. The NP-FM500H for the A mounts is rated at 11.8Wh @ 1650mAh whereas the E mount NP-FW50 battery is only rated at 7.3Wh @ 1020mAh.

The Bigger battery can deliver over 60% more power and hold over 60% more energy.

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Sep 26, 2015 13:36:49   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
cucharared wrote:
Wait - you're saying you shot 2240 images on one battery and it still had 38-40% power remaining? Surely I misunderstood. That's freaking unbelieveable.

ron


Yes, it is true. That is why I had such a hard time with so many reports of batteries that had to be changed after 300+ shots. I use the 6000 mainly for low-light / no flash shooting. Wondering if on-camera flash and/or video mode can be a reason for fast battery drain, or maybe settings? I use BBF, continuous AF, hi-speed, center focus point only, and usually but not always use the EVF. Use manual focus but not much. I turn camera off intermittently throughout event(s), but not for very long.
Based on posts, I did purchase an after market second battery a couple of months after I bought it, including a charger, but have yet to rely on it. Old habits die hard, as I always take at least one spare battery to an event regardless of how long it will be.

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Sep 26, 2015 13:46:47   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
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Sep 26, 2015 15:30:13   #
bkellyusa Loc: Nashville, TN
 
[quote=sirlensalot]Yes, it is true. That is why I had such a hard time with so many reports of batteries that had to be changed after 300+ shots. I use the 6000 mainly for low-light / no flash shooting. Wondering if on-camera flash and/or video mode can be a reason for fast battery drain, or maybe settings? I use BBF, continuous AF, hi-speed, center focus point only, and usually but not always use the EVF. Use manual focus but not much. I turn camera off intermittently throughout event(s), but not for very long.
Based on posts, I did purchase an after market second battery a couple of months after I bought it, including a charger, but have yet to rely on it. Old habits die hard, as I always take at least one spare battery to an event regardless of how long it will be

I need that battery!

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Sep 26, 2015 20:11:22   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
[quote=bkellyusa]
sirlensalot wrote:
Yes, it is true. That is why I had such a hard time with so many reports of batteries that had to be changed after 300+ shots. I use the 6000 mainly for low-light / no flash shooting. Wondering if on-camera flash and/or video mode can be a reason for fast battery drain, or maybe settings? I use BBF, continuous AF, hi-speed, center focus point only, and usually but not always use the EVF. Use manual focus but not much. I turn camera off intermittently throughout event(s), but not for very long.
Based on posts, I did purchase an after market second battery a couple of months after I bought it, including a charger, but have yet to rely on it. Old habits die hard, as I always take at least one spare battery to an event regardless of how long it will be

I need that battery!
Yes, it is true. That is why I had such a hard tim... (show quote)




LOL! Just a stock 1020 mAh. Nothing special.
I am speculating that short battery life is a combination of settings and how it is used. I have no other theory.

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Sep 26, 2015 20:56:14   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
^^^Yep.

Mirrorless cameras are energy hogs by nature. These Sony's are no exception. In fact, just powering them up can draw down the charge 1-2%. It is literally better to let them go into sleep mode than to turn them completely off because of the energy demands of the power-up/power-down cycle(s).

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Sep 26, 2015 20:58:43   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
CHOLLY wrote:
^^^Yep.

Mirrorless cameras are energy hogs by nature. These Sony's are no exception. In fact, just powering them up can draw down the charge 1-2%. It is literally better to let them go into sleep mode than to turn them completely off because of the energy demands of the power-up/power-down cycle(s).



Agree. Just recently read that. Makes sense.

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Sep 27, 2015 03:03:04   #
le boecere
 
CHOLLY wrote:
^^^Yep.

Mirrorless cameras are energy hogs by nature. These Sony's are no exception. In fact, just powering them up can draw down the charge 1-2%. It is literally better to let them go into sleep mode than to turn them completely off because of the energy demands of the power-up/power-down cycle(s).


THIS, is good to know! And, it's something I did NOT know. Thank you, one more time, Cholly !

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