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Aug 31, 2015 08:33:35   #
authorizeduser Loc: Monroe, Michigan
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Are you sure you want to attract a predator? :D


Looks like an old girl friend .... My Bad!
:shock:

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Aug 31, 2015 08:42:28   #
Tjohn Loc: Inverness, FL formerly Arivaca, AZ
 
Be patient and stay still as long as you can. Wear a hat and anything else to protect you from above. One owl strike will be all the explanation you will need. Camouflage. No perfume.
Instructions from calls are usually useful.

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Aug 31, 2015 08:45:03   #
AndyCE Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
BushDog wrote:
Do any of you have any experience with predator calls to lure animals like coyotes and foxes in order to photograph them?


I've had success with the injured rabbit call. (electronic version) Almost always at dusk.
Andy

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Aug 31, 2015 09:08:29   #
elwynn Loc: Near Atlanta, GA
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Like "Here Kitty, Kitty"?


Award for best response goes to you.

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Aug 31, 2015 09:13:57   #
Photocraig
 
LFingar wrote:
Foxes are very shy of people normally. I've never heard of a call for them. They have excellent senses of smell, hearing and sight. I've gotten some good shots of a pair that used to raid my bird feeders back in the spring. I thought that was pretty cool until a rabid fox showed up and charged me. I beat it with the lawn chair I was sitting on and it finally went back into the woods, only to show up an hour later at a house across the stream from mine. It attacked a dog, which killed it.
We have plenty of coyotes around here also. If you intend to try to attract them keep in mind that they hunt in packs. In addition to your camera, have a gun with you.
Bait, if it is legal where you live, is probably the best way to attract either species. Unless you know how to sound like an injured rabbit!
In either case, if you plan to interact with predators, be prepared for anything. It's not a Walt Disney movie.
Foxes are very shy of people normally. I've never ... (show quote)


Nature is binary. one is either the Preditor or the Prey. Heed this advice.

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Aug 31, 2015 09:56:59   #
Leon S Loc: Minnesota
 
I asked a game warden if I could set out decoys to photograph ducks when out of season. He said sure, and when I catch you, I'll write you a nice ticket and confiscate all your equipment. Then I'll let the judge sort out the details. Point taken.

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Aug 31, 2015 10:11:19   #
Rbode Loc: Ft lauderdale, Fla
 
BushDog wrote:
Thank you ElGee. That's a very interesting and compelling perspective. Gives me something to contemplate and evaluate spiritually.


http://www.allpredatorcalls.com

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Aug 31, 2015 11:56:57   #
DaveyDitzer Loc: Western PA
 
BushDog wrote:
Sounds like I better have a secure hiding place if I use a mouth call! A remote electronic call may be worth the money. Thanks lightcatcher.


A remote call can get the predator to a location that might be up to 100 yards away. But you have to control scent, wind direction, camo clothing - including face mask, and any light reflections from polished surfaces. I've had coyotes bolt from little more that a blink of my eye. Plan on shooting at distances of 100 yards. Most remotes can't work from a hand held control more that 100 yards. Never call predators without a sidearm. Many are dangerous. Coyotes especially when pack hunting.

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Aug 31, 2015 11:57:25   #
DaveyDitzer Loc: Western PA
 
DaveyDitzer wrote:
A remote call can get the predator to a location that might be up to 100 yards away. But you have to control scent, wind direction, camo clothing - including face mask, and any light reflections from polished surfaces. I've had coyotes bolt from little more that a blink of my eye. Plan on shooting at distances of 100 yards. Most remotes can't work from a hand held control more that 100 yards. Never call predators without a sidearm. Many are dangerous. Coyotes especially when pack hunting.


Investing in a tree stand improves chances greatly.

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Aug 31, 2015 12:02:39   #
Longhorn Loc: Austin, Texas
 
authorizeduser wrote:
Looks like an old girl friend .... My Bad!
:shock:


Your bad what? My Bad! makes no sense>

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Aug 31, 2015 12:26:10   #
BobT Loc: southern Minnesota
 
I totally agree with El. In fact I was surprised at the numbers of entries posted here before El's comment. To me, you take what you can get "naturally" or not at all. That's the excitement of wildlife photography.....to ME. I understand that baiting is frequently done when shooting wildlife documentaries. There's an interesting book on this very subject: Shooting in the Wild" by Chris Palmer with foreword by Jane Goodall. Actually covers both sides of the issue. It bears reading if you're serious about the subject. It doesn't profess NOT baiting, but HOW and to what extent you do it. You'll be surprised to learn about a serious and very popular wildlife photographer that has taken this way too far.

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Aug 31, 2015 12:26:25   #
dabbe Loc: Mountain Home, Arkansas
 
LFingar wrote:
Foxes are very shy of people normally. I've never heard of a call for them. They have excellent senses of smell, hearing and sight. I've gotten some good shots of a pair that used to raid my bird feeders back in the spring. I thought that was pretty cool until a rabid fox showed up and charged me. I beat it with the lawn chair I was sitting on and it finally went back into the woods, only to show up an hour later at a house across the stream from mine. It attacked a dog, which killed it.
We have plenty of coyotes around here also. If you intend to try to attract them keep in mind that they hunt in packs. In addition to your camera, have a gun with you.
Bait, if it is legal where you live, is probably the best way to attract either species. Unless you know how to sound like an injured rabbit!
In either case, if you plan to interact with predators, be prepared for anything. It's not a Walt Disney movie.
Foxes are very shy of people normally. I've never ... (show quote)


A Fox will respond to a call (injured rabbit), or anything a Coyote will respond-to. I've seen 'em do it! Mouth blown calls are cheap and easy to learn. There are other digital calls that work well, but I've had more luck with the mouth call.

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Aug 31, 2015 12:58:29   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
dabbe wrote:
A Fox will respond to a call (injured rabbit), or anything a Coyote will respond-to. I've seen 'em do it! Mouth blown calls are cheap and easy to learn. There are other digital calls that work well, but I've had more luck with the mouth call.


I've got all I can do to whistle! Not being a hunter I had never heard of predator calls. My brother though, just sits on his back porch and shoots the occasional coyote. He doesn't use a camera. He has also shown me mountain lion tracks on his property. Big tracks! He's hunted all his life and even he is not too keen on being in the woods alone with that thing out there. Fortunately, there is no shortage of deer for it to hunt.

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Aug 31, 2015 13:07:27   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
BushDog wrote:
Thanks LF. Good advice. I've had a couple of (non-rabid) fox encounters. The best was when I was trying to photograph a particular bird. I was sitting in a folding canvas chair in a wooded area between a river (to my right) and a cliff (to my left). I heard some critter crawling along the side of the cliff from behind me toward me. I repositioned myself with my camera so I could photograph it when it came alongside me. I got two good photos of it. One, when he heard my camera clicking and he looked right at me. I was fortunate to have my camera set to spot focusing so I got him focused instead of strands of weeds between us. The other was right after that when he turned away from me and slowly crawled up the cliff. "His ears turned backward" so he could hear if I was coming after him! It was really cool. It took me a while to figure out what it really was.

We do have a lot of coyotes and bobcats in this area. I'm hoping to (safely) get some good images.
Thanks LF. Good advice. I've had a couple of (non-... (show quote)


Here's the female of the pair that was in my yard. Good looking animal. The rabid one was very scroungy looking. Interestingly enough, they like black oil sunflower seed. Actually, I haven't found much of any wild animal that doesn't. Deer and turkeys will step right over corn to get to it. Even our feral cats eat it. After the rabid fox I stopped putting it out. I was getting too much wildlife in the back yard. Between the seed and peanut butter suet I think every animal for miles was stopping by!


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Aug 31, 2015 13:09:50   #
Bushymonster Loc: Oklahoma City. OK.
 
ElGee wrote:
WOW! I don't think calls or baiting animals is ethical if you want to call yourself a wildlife photographer. I've been photographing wildlife for over a decade and it never dawned on me to draw an animal out of it's natural setting or alter it's natural behavior. IMHO that is not wildlife photography. I would not even know what to call it.


Actually you are not taking the animal out of it's natural settings. When he is coming to a call he is very much in nature hunting for food. If anything it would be like holding up a cookie so a child would look up and you could take a shot. It's all the same kind of situation. You want food hunt for it.
I was a predator hunter and had a lot of call in it put's the animal in a natural mode. I quit about ten years ago because of my health. I still have an AR-15. One of my 16 rifles.
-Bushy

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