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Aug 22, 2015 20:37:02   #
James Shaw
 
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James Shaw wrote:Bangee, that is total bull sh$t. You are one stupid, self-righteous, sanctimonious ass. Men, not a-God was the author of the Bible. Men's fingerprints are all over it, and no one knows which men wrote it. You are talking to rationally-minded individuals, who can see through your nonsense.
Bangee5 wrote:
No one cares what you think James so, blow it out your rear...

Really now, pretend Christian?

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Aug 22, 2015 20:40:35   #
James Shaw
 
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slocumeddie wrote:
Of course not..........but Rac loves to squeal "ad hominem attack".....I suggested that he do his own research about Veith, as I didn't want to hear it once again..........

Well, Rac did not like my message, so he immediately went into his tired old rant.....did he check Veith's background ?..No..... did he ignore it..?... yes..........

So yes, Rac did attack me........but no matter.....I'm a big boy.....Rac on the other hand, is a hypocrite, ignorant of (among other things) his hypocrisy........

I did assume that christians care about the sources of information they bring forward to make their case.....apparently not..........
slocumeddie wrote: br Of course not..........but R... (show quote)

Bangee5 wrote:
We are a trusting bunch of souls but aren't we all. I don't necessarily care for the people that you use as a source as well. Can we all be wrong? Certainly we are not experts. now are we?

Most definitely, YES, we can all be wrong. Science looks to correct wrong with new hypotheses. Religion continues to threaten you with the plagues of mankind if you dare question/change the science book of the superstitious (Bible).

You know, Bangee, the book that scares the hell out of you into believing, for fear that being rational will keep you out of heaven, you know that place that you go when you die that there is no evidence of whatsoever. Oh, not even Lazarus let us know.

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Aug 22, 2015 21:05:57   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
Bangee5 wrote:
We are a trusting bunch of souls but aren't we all. I don't necessarily care for the people that you use as a source as well. Can we all be wrong? Certainly we are not experts. now are we?
I did assume that christians care about the sources of information they bring forward to make their case.....apparently not..........

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Aug 22, 2015 21:17:06   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
slocumeddie wrote:
I did assume that christians care about the sources of information they bring forward to make their case.....apparently not..........


apparently... you don't either!

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Aug 22, 2015 21:50:51   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Bangee5 wrote:
No one cares what you think James so, blow it out your rear...


Rac is the only one who cares what you think so blow it out of your rear

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Aug 22, 2015 22:09:09   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
silver wrote:
Rac is the only one who cares what you think so blow it out of your rear


I win - you lose, loser!

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Aug 22, 2015 22:27:37   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Bangee5 wrote:
I win - you lose, loser!


You win???? Yes, you won a dildo!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT5xKrqgpj8

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Aug 22, 2015 22:58:50   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
silver wrote:
You win???? Yes, you won a dildo!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT5xKrqgpj8


And look who is sucking it... pervert! :lol: 8-) :shock:

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Aug 23, 2015 03:45:16   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Bangee5 wrote:
And look who is sucking it... pervert! :lol: 8-) :shock:


MY oh my your sexual phobias are showing.

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Aug 23, 2015 09:48:29   #
OldDoc Loc: New York
 
Racmanaz wrote:


I think you might revisit his explanation of Darwinism and lamarckism, I don't see anywhere that he is in error. He says "science (Darwinists) shoots down Lamarckism but uses it when it finds it useful", which I find true in this case. Neither Darwinism (natural selection) nor Lamarckism have the ability to created new features or structures in species. Natural selection is not a mechanism for adding new structures, it can only work with structures that are already exist or eliminate those features mostly by extinction.
br br I think you might revisit his explanatio... (show quote)

In the case of the giraffe, no new structure is required, so your explanation fails. Giraffes (and their ancestors) are/were born with a variety of neck lengths. This is just natural variation. Natural selection favored those born with longer necks since they could graze on tree leaves that are/were unavailable to other animals. Thus, those giraffes with naturally occurring necks were favored, and passed that gene variant onto the next generation. The Lamarkian explanation would be that by trying to reach into trees caused the necks to elongate,and this trait was passed onto the next generation. The failure of that idea can be seen in our family dog, Gullliver. Gullie is a Bouvier des Flandres, a breed that has had its tail docked, probably for centuries. Nevertheless, Gullie's tail was surgically shortened when he was a newborn because he was born with a full-length tail, not the Lamarkian-predicted short tail.

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Aug 23, 2015 13:31:27   #
James Shaw
 
Bangee5 wrote:
I win - you lose, loser!

Unfortunately, Bangee see this as a win-lose game. He should use reason not innuendo and superstition to see what is really happening in the world.

It is not a win-lose game. It is reason versus superstition.

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Aug 23, 2015 13:34:16   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
OldDoc wrote:
In the case of the giraffe, no new structure is required, so your explanation fails. Giraffes (and their ancestors) are/were born with a variety of neck lengths. This is just natural variation. Natural selection favored those born with longer necks since they could graze on tree leaves that are/were unavailable to other animals. Thus, those giraffes with naturally occurring necks were favored, and passed that gene variant onto the next generation. The Lamarkian explanation would be that by trying to reach into trees caused the necks to elongate,and this trait was passed onto the next generation. The failure of that idea can be seen in our family dog, Gullliver. Gullie is a Bouvier des Flandres, a breed that has had its tail docked, probably for centuries. Nevertheless, Gullie's tail was surgically shortened when he was a newborn because he was born with a full-length tail, not the Lamarkian-predicted short tail.
In the case of the giraffe, no new structure is re... (show quote)


Giraffes with different neck lengths. Like tall people short people. That has nothing to do with natural selection but with genes. I come from a family of tall men. I am taller then my father and brothers. My grand son is tall like me but taller then his father and mother.

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Aug 23, 2015 13:43:50   #
James Shaw
 
Racmanaz wrote:
This is another brilliantly articulated presentation of the "debate" between Design and Chance (Darwinism). Dr. Walter Veith absolutely dismantles and buries the hypothesis of Darwinian evolution as a viable alternative to the origin of life and the variety of kinds of life on earth. Please enjoy as I did, God bless the ears and eyes of those that watch and listen with interest.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaE3MIRcrGw

Please read what OLD DOC wrote to see the falsehood in this video.

Rac does not have an idea of his own, so he uses the falsehoods in the videos of others in an attempt to make himself look smart and important. But, like the obvious asinine statements in this and other videos Rac fails miserably.

Again read what OLD DOC wrote regarding this ridiculous video to see its falsehood and Rac's stupidity.

Thanks Old Doc; good post.

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Aug 23, 2015 13:52:49   #
James Shaw
 
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OldDoc wrote:
In the case of the giraffe, no new structure is required, so your explanation fails. Giraffes (and their ancestors) are/were born with a variety of neck lengths. This is just natural variation. Natural selection favored those born with longer necks since they could graze on tree leaves that are/were unavailable to other animals. Thus, those giraffes with naturally occurring necks were favored, and passed that gene variant onto the next generation. The Lamarkian explanation would be that by trying to reach into trees caused the necks to elongate,and this trait was passed onto the next generation. The failure of that idea can be seen in our family dog, Gullliver. Gullie is a Bouvier des Flandres, a breed that has had its tail docked, probably for centuries. Nevertheless, Gullie's tail was surgically shortened when he was a newborn because he was born with a full-length tail, not the Lamarkian-predicted short tail.
OldDoc wrote: br In the case of the giraffe, no ne... (show quote)

Bangee5 wrote:
Giraffes with different neck lengths. Like tall people short people. That has nothing to do with natural selection but with genes. I come from a family of tall men. I am taller then my father and brothers. My grand son is tall like me but taller then his father and mother.

Bangee attempts to sound smart, but fails horribly. He does not know he is ignorant on this topic.

Natural selection requires long periods of time to show the effects of gene change in a population.

Bangee expresses his stupidity once again. Old Doc is right.

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Aug 23, 2015 14:44:37   #
LarJgrip Loc: The Fraser Valley
 
James Shaw wrote:
Unfortunately, Bangee see this as a win-lose game. He should use reason not innuendo and superstition to see what is really happening in the world.

It is not a win-lose game. It is reason versus superstition.


For once we agreeĀ…it is definitely reason vs superstition.

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BOOM little house. BOOM little house. BOOM little house.
BOOM little house. BOOM little house. BOOM little house.
BOOM little house. ad infinitum

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