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Aug 16, 2015 06:41:45   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Bangee5 wrote:
It is easy to see what you don't know by what you say. If you have to be told about the crusades, the inquisitions, the genocide by the Turks, well, it is obvious that you know nothing about history.


Are you claiming the Turks were atheists?

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Aug 16, 2015 06:44:01   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Racmanaz wrote:
You really don't know much about the history of the Crusades and why it happened to you? It was not about killing innocent people on an offensive it was a defensive mechanism to stop the Muslims slaughter and take over it was the Muslims that were controlling and terrorizing the Christians the Christians had to defend themselves and overtake the land that was taken from them. You should be very thankful for the Crusades, cuz right now you'd probably be under Sharia law and speaking Arabic. Westboro they're not Christians almost all Christians reject Westboro Church they are
Looney Tunes. Spanish Inquisition Didn't kill many people but it was a bad thing in our history yes. Bosnia is about the same thing as the Crusades. The KKK sorry that was an invention of the Democrats not the religious right. Now you have to explain why more people were slaughtered and murdered under the name of atheism and atheists leaderships than ever has been murdered under religious leaders. Christianity has always been about freedom atheism can't say the same thing, all communists countries started because of atheism.
You really don't know much about the history of th... (show quote)


Whether the Crusades were the fault of Christians or Muslims they weren't the fault of atheists.

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Aug 16, 2015 06:46:56   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Did I mention all the communist regimes that are ran by atheists even today?


How do you define communism and why do you believe only atheists can be communists? Are you claiming that God is a capitalist?

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Aug 16, 2015 06:52:12   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
venturer9 wrote:
Here is an excellent Article (LONG) on the Crusades..... if you really want to know sit yourself down and read.... Believe or NOT, that is your prerogative but it has MUCH information on the whys and hows...

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/mayweb-only/52.0.html?start=1

Depending on who you read or listen too the numbers Killed in the Crusades range from 30,000 to 5,000.000 so pick what suits your point at any given time... The 5milliion number was estimated by a virulent anti Catholic organization.



Inquisition......... seems that the real numbers are lost but estimates (at least in this particular article) is "Several Tens of Thousands"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cullen-murphy/10-questions-about-the-inquisition_b_1224406.html

Bosnian Massacres..... Appears to be from 7000 to 8000

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/07/10/how-bosnian-muslims-view-christians-20-years-after-srebrenica-massacre-2/

Treatment of Galileo 1 Killed

Couldn't find any figures on the Uganda Kill the Gays Bill... but here is an article about the subject..

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/01/uganda-s-kill-the-gays-bill-is-back.html

Regardless of what the Westboro Baptist Church Calls themselves, they are NOT Christian and as far as I know they have not killed anybody..

KKK Started by Democrats with approximately 3500 to 4500 killed, depending on who you pay attention too...

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stories_org_kkk.html

I am going to use a figure of in total ......582,500.00

Hitlers regime "Approximately 11 Million
Stalins regime "Approximately 20 million
Pol Pot regime "Approximately 2 Million

TOTAL 33 Million Killed by NON CHRISTIAN ATHEIST Regimes

Mike
Here is an excellent Article (LONG) on the Crusade... (show quote)


In your mind a non Christian is automatically an atheist?
I don't recall this having been about Democrats and republicans. I think it was about people being killed for religion and why do you get to decide whether or not Westborough Baptist is Christian or not and the KKK, Democrat or not, hide behind crosses (and hoods) and crosses have religious significance. I've heard it argued whether Hitler was Christian or not but I've never heard him called an atheist.

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Aug 16, 2015 10:23:25   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Sorry I don't post just opinions I post truth from references and leaving science facts. Where do you see that I disrespect people of different opinions especially atheist? If you haven't noticed it's the atheist who attack me personally and called me names and insult me I do not return those insults


I am not responsible for what others say. I am responsible for what I say and you are responsible for what you say.

I would like for you to explain you remark that "it is obvious they you (bazbo) don't know much about history".

Quit trying to change the subject and squirm away from any accountability.

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Aug 16, 2015 10:27:48   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Sorry I don't post just opinions I post truth from references and leaving science facts. Where do you see that I disrespect people of different opinions especially atheist? If you haven't noticed it's the atheist who attack me personally and called me names and insult me I do not return those insults


Your asinine comment that if were not for the Crusade, I would now be speaking Arabic is an opinion. Try to stay on topic.

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Aug 16, 2015 10:33:28   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Bangee5 wrote:
You mean to tell me, and Rac - I am sure that he will be amazed to learn that all those insults that you have been spewing was a show of your intellect? Really?


What insults? I have had some pointed remarks about what you guys have said, but I do not recall anything like a personal insult. You know, like the many times you have called me a liar.

And when you call me a liar, there is nothing wrong in calling you a hypocrite. Its not insulting you, its describing you.

Like any school yard bully, yu can dish it out but you can't take it.

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Aug 16, 2015 10:49:01   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Bazbo wrote:
I am not responsible for what others say. I am responsible for what I say and you are responsible for what you say.

I would like for you to explain you remark that "it is obvious they you (bazbo) don't know much about history".

Quit trying to change the subject and squirm away from any accountability.


I've already explained why you don't know much about the history of the Crusades cuz you have no idea what happened and the reasoning for the Crusades you make it sound like they're just murders thugs just trying to take over the world and that's not true maybe you need to learn more about it before you speak about it.

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Aug 16, 2015 10:50:05   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Bazbo wrote:
Your asinine comment that if were not for the Crusade, I would now be speaking Arabic is an opinion. Try to stay on topic.


Yeah why don't you try staying on subject you're the one that mentioned the Crusades. And it is true about what I said if it weren't for the crusade you be speaking Arabic and be under the Shariah law

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Aug 16, 2015 10:50:10   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
venturer9 wrote:
Here is an excellent Article (LONG) on the Crusades..... if you really want to know sit yourself down and read.... Believe or NOT, that is your prerogative but it has MUCH information on the whys and hows...

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/mayweb-only/52.0.html?start=1

Depending on who you read or listen too the numbers Killed in the Crusades range from 30,000 to 5,000.000 so pick what suits your point at any given time... The 5milliion number was estimated by a virulent anti Catholic organization.



Inquisition......... seems that the real numbers are lost but estimates (at least in this particular article) is "Several Tens of Thousands"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cullen-murphy/10-questions-about-the-inquisition_b_1224406.html

Bosnian Massacres..... Appears to be from 7000 to 8000

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/07/10/how-bosnian-muslims-view-christians-20-years-after-srebrenica-massacre-2/

Treatment of Galileo 1 Killed

Couldn't find any figures on the Uganda Kill the Gays Bill... but here is an article about the subject..

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/01/uganda-s-kill-the-gays-bill-is-back.html

Regardless of what the Westboro Baptist Church Calls themselves, they are NOT Christian and as far as I know they have not killed anybody..

KKK Started by Democrats with approximately 3500 to 4500 killed, depending on who you pay attention too...

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stories_org_kkk.html

I am going to use a figure of in total ......582,500.00

Hitlers regime "Approximately 11 Million
Stalins regime "Approximately 20 million
Pol Pot regime "Approximately 2 Million

TOTAL 33 Million Killed by NON CHRISTIAN ATHEIST Regimes

Mike
Here is an excellent Article (LONG) on the Crusade... (show quote)


Christianist historical revisionism is hardly historical scholarship your condescending comments notwithstanding. Believe what you want but ideas like this have very little currency out side your bubble.

It matters not to what started this: Racs assertion that "Christianity the Unique Essential Basis for Freedom and Prosperity"

If you would like to get back to that topic, then fine. If you would like to post some support for this we can discuss. I have already given reasons what Rac has demonstrated complete lack of credibility on what constitutes evidence--but if you would like to try another argument vector, I'm game. Try me.

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Aug 16, 2015 10:52:39   #
Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
 
Racmanaz wrote:
I've already explained why you don't know much about the history of the Crusades cuz you have no idea what happened and the reasoning for the Crusades you make it sound like they're just murders thugs just trying to take over the world and that's not true maybe you need to learn more about it before you speak about it.


It really doesn't matter Rac, if history isn't recorded as they believe it should be they'll just re-write it to suit their purpose.

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Aug 16, 2015 10:53:49   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Bazbo wrote:
Christianist historical revisionism is hardly historical scholarship your condescending comments notwithstanding. Believe what you want but ideas like this have very little currency out side your bubble.

It matters not to what started this: Racs assertion that "Christianity the Unique Essential Basis for Freedom and Prosperity"

If you would like to get back to that topic, then fine. If you would like to post some support for this we can discuss. I have already given reasons what Rac has demonstrated complete lack of credibility on what constitutes evidence--but if you would like to try another argument vector, I'm game. Try me.
Christianist historical revisionism is hardly hist... (show quote)


You gave no reasons to discredit me nor the links zip have provided, you have discredit yourself by not knowing the history of the Crusades

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Aug 16, 2015 10:54:35   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
[quote=Pepper]It really doesn't matter Rac, if history isn't recorded as they believe it should be they'll just re-write it to suit their oops lol

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Aug 16, 2015 10:56:16   #
Pepper Loc: Planet Earth Country USA
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Yeah probably the ones you've been reading, there's many agnostic historians that wrote about the Crusades and it's nothing like as you're telling it


What???

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Aug 16, 2015 10:57:34   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Pepper wrote:
What???


Ha? lol

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