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Apr 15, 2012 06:22:14   #
steveduke129 Loc: Shalimar, FL
 
Use the straightening tool to level the horizon.

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Apr 15, 2012 06:23:21   #
steveduke129 Loc: Shalimar, FL
 
Catamarans could use some cropping and straightening.

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Apr 15, 2012 08:24:17   #
Rbo36 Loc: S. W. Michigan
 
Ugly Jake wrote:
Meives wrote:
Allegro23 wrote:
Thanks again for your help and assistance here. This is a great site.


I like the Life Boat. It need the horizon levelled out. And maybe cropped a bit. But I like the subject and the color. I can tweak it if you give me permission. David in Florida


All you horizon police - leave him alone ! It shows what he SAW - and he likes it !!! I had a shore picture with LAND on the horizon, and the HP insisted I "fix" it - upon further review, it was a slope and curve of the shoreline making it tipped. This "Tipped ocean" shows that the beach is steep, and makes you lean to starboard. I agree it's a little too much in this instance, but not all horizons HAVE to be plumb level. {rant ends}
quote=Meives quote=Allegro23 Thanks again for yo... (show quote)


I thought critiques were being asked for.

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Apr 15, 2012 08:52:38   #
Allegro23 Loc: Illinois Chicagoland Burbs
 
steveduke129 wrote:
Use the straightening tool to level the horizon.


Yes I did it and it should be ther in photos or somewhere, thanks.

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Apr 15, 2012 08:53:16   #
Allegro23 Loc: Illinois Chicagoland Burbs
 
Rbo36 wrote:
Ugly Jake wrote:
Meives wrote:
Allegro23 wrote:
Thanks again for your help and assistance here. This is a great site.


I like the Life Boat. It need the horizon levelled out. And maybe cropped a bit. But I like the subject and the color. I can tweak it if you give me permission. David in Florida


All you horizon police - leave him alone ! It shows what he SAW - and he likes it !!! I had a shore picture with LAND on the horizon, and the HP insisted I "fix" it - upon further review, it was a slope and curve of the shoreline making it tipped. This "Tipped ocean" shows that the beach is steep, and makes you lean to starboard. I agree it's a little too much in this instance, but not all horizons HAVE to be plumb level. {rant ends}
quote=Meives quote=Allegro23 Thanks again for yo... (show quote)


I thought critiques were being asked for.
quote=Ugly Jake quote=Meives quote=Allegro23 Th... (show quote)


yes thanks for your comments.

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Apr 15, 2012 08:54:08   #
Allegro23 Loc: Illinois Chicagoland Burbs
 
steveduke129 wrote:
Catamarans could use some cropping and straightening.


Yes good idea I think it was cropt, should be there, thanks.

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Apr 15, 2012 09:03:02   #
Ugly Jake Loc: Sub-Rural Vermont
 
Rbo36 wrote:
Ugly Jake wrote:
Meives wrote:
Allegro23 wrote:
Thanks again for your help and assistance here. This is a great site.


I like the Life Boat. It need the horizon levelled out. And maybe cropped a bit. But I like the subject and the color. I can tweak it if you give me permission. David in Florida


All you horizon police - leave him alone ! It shows what he SAW - and he likes it !!! I had a shore picture with LAND on the horizon, and the HP insisted I "fix" it - upon further review, it was a slope and curve of the shoreline making it tipped. This "Tipped ocean" shows that the beach is steep, and makes you lean to starboard. I agree it's a little too much in this instance, but not all horizons HAVE to be plumb level. {rant ends}
quote=Meives quote=Allegro23 Thanks again for yo... (show quote)


I thought critiques were being asked for.
quote=Ugly Jake quote=Meives quote=Allegro23 Th... (show quote)


Yes - a critique is a recommendation for improvement - "you have to straighten the horizon" is imposing a standard, which is not 100 % of the time an improvement.

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Apr 15, 2012 09:09:52   #
Allegro23 Loc: Illinois Chicagoland Burbs
 
Ugly Jake wrote:
Rbo36 wrote:
Ugly Jake wrote:
Meives wrote:
Allegro23 wrote:
Thanks again for your help and assistance here. This is a great site.


I like the Life Boat. It need the horizon levelled out. And maybe cropped a bit. But I like the subject and the color. I can tweak it if you give me permission. David in Florida


All you horizon police - leave him alone ! It shows what he SAW - and he likes it !!! I had a shore picture with LAND on the horizon, and the HP insisted I "fix" it - upon further review, it was a slope and curve of the shoreline making it tipped. This "Tipped ocean" shows that the beach is steep, and makes you lean to starboard. I agree it's a little too much in this instance, but not all horizons HAVE to be plumb level. {rant ends}
quote=Meives quote=Allegro23 Thanks again for yo... (show quote)


I thought critiques were being asked for.
quote=Ugly Jake quote=Meives quote=Allegro23 Th... (show quote)


Yes - a critique is a recommendation for improvement - "you have to straighten the horizon" is imposing a standard, which is not 100 % of the time an improvement.
quote=Rbo36 quote=Ugly Jake quote=Meives quote... (show quote)


Well thanks again, I agree ther is always an exception to any rule especially in art and creative situations. But here are the pictures once again.

Catamarans
Catamarans...

OC Life Boat
OC Life Boat...

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Apr 15, 2012 13:16:29   #
Meives Loc: FORT LAUDERDALE
 
Allegro23 wrote:
Ugly Jake wrote:
Rbo36 wrote:
Ugly Jake wrote:
Meives wrote:
Allegro23 wrote:
Thanks again for your help and assistance here. This is a great site.


I like the Life Boat. It need the horizon levelled out. And maybe cropped a bit. But I like the subject and the color. I can tweak it if you give me permission. David in Florida


All you horizon police - leave him alone ! It shows what he SAW - and he likes it !!! I had a shore picture with LAND on the horizon, and the HP insisted I "fix" it - upon further review, it was a slope and curve of the shoreline making it tipped. This "Tipped ocean" shows that the beach is steep, and makes you lean to starboard. I agree it's a little too much in this instance, but not all horizons HAVE to be plumb level. {rant ends}
quote=Meives quote=Allegro23 Thanks again for yo... (show quote)


I thought critiques were being asked for.
quote=Ugly Jake quote=Meives quote=Allegro23 Th... (show quote)


Yes - a critique is a recommendation for improvement - "you have to straighten the horizon" is imposing a standard, which is not 100 % of the time an improvement.
quote=Rbo36 quote=Ugly Jake quote=Meives quote... (show quote)


Well thanks again, I agree ther is always an exception to any rule especially in art and creative situations. But here are the pictures once again.
quote=Ugly Jake quote=Rbo36 quote=Ugly Jake qu... (show quote)


I like this fix a lot. I cropped it 4 x 5 to include the sky and then crunched it back to 4 x 6 just for fun.



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Apr 15, 2012 14:12:00   #
Allegro23 Loc: Illinois Chicagoland Burbs
 
okay well makes for a small picture but looks okay.

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Apr 15, 2012 14:43:35   #
Rbo36 Loc: S. W. Michigan
 
Ugly Jake wrote:
Rbo36 wrote:
Ugly Jake wrote:
Meives wrote:
Allegro23 wrote:
Thanks again for your help and assistance here. This is a great site.


I like the Life Boat. It need the horizon levelled out. And maybe cropped a bit. But I like the subject and the color. I can tweak it if you give me permission. David in Florida


All you horizon police - leave him alone ! It shows what he SAW - and he likes it !!! I had a shore picture with LAND on the horizon, and the HP insisted I "fix" it - upon further review, it was a slope and curve of the shoreline making it tipped. This "Tipped ocean" shows that the beach is steep, and makes you lean to starboard. I agree it's a little too much in this instance, but not all horizons HAVE to be plumb level. {rant ends}
quote=Meives quote=Allegro23 Thanks again for yo... (show quote)


I thought critiques were being asked for.
quote=Ugly Jake quote=Meives quote=Allegro23 Th... (show quote)


Yes - a critique is a recommendation for improvement - "you have to straighten the horizon" is imposing a standard, which is not 100 % of the time an improvement.
quote=Rbo36 quote=Ugly Jake quote=Meives quote... (show quote)


OK, My recommendation for improvement would be to level the horizon so it does not look tilted down on the right side of the picture.

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Apr 15, 2012 15:23:13   #
Allegro23 Loc: Illinois Chicagoland Burbs
 
Rbo36 wrote:
Ugly Jake wrote:
Rbo36 wrote:
Ugly Jake wrote:
Meives wrote:
Allegro23 wrote:
Thanks again for your help and assistance here. This is a great site.


I like the Life Boat. It need the horizon levelled out. And maybe cropped a bit. But I like the subject and the color. I can tweak it if you give me permission. David in Florida


All you horizon police - leave him alone ! It shows what he SAW - and he likes it !!! I had a shore picture with LAND on the horizon, and the HP insisted I "fix" it - upon further review, it was a slope and curve of the shoreline making it tipped. This "Tipped ocean" shows that the beach is steep, and makes you lean to starboard. I agree it's a little too much in this instance, but not all horizons HAVE to be plumb level. {rant ends}
quote=Meives quote=Allegro23 Thanks again for yo... (show quote)


I thought critiques were being asked for.
quote=Ugly Jake quote=Meives quote=Allegro23 Th... (show quote)


Yes - a critique is a recommendation for improvement - "you have to straighten the horizon" is imposing a standard, which is not 100 % of the time an improvement.
quote=Rbo36 quote=Ugly Jake quote=Meives quote... (show quote)


OK, My recommendation for improvement would be to level the horizon so it does not look tilted down on the right side of the picture.
quote=Ugly Jake quote=Rbo36 quote=Ugly Jake qu... (show quote)


Well thank you , that seems to be the common consenus adn it has been taken care of, hey but tahnaks.
The picture corrected is here somewhere.

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Apr 16, 2012 12:32:03   #
Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio
 
okay

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Apr 16, 2012 12:38:06   #
Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio
 
You asked for honest critiques so that is what I will give you. The comments are not meant to run you down but simply to make you think a little more before snapping the photo.

1. This an uninteresting shot of a mess of little sail boats off in the distance. The image is too busy as is and too much empty space.

Suggestion: If you can go back, use a wide angle lens and get up close and point down or get close to a hull and try and use intersting angles to show lots of details that will work in an image. or maybe get right on the sand and shoot up but get the hull(s) in the shot plus the masts as you look towatds the sky. Maybe get low onto one side of a boat and pickout details of part of the boat plus showing other boats off behind the subject matter you are shooting.

2. Another boring shot and it is all out of focus so no help for this one.

Suggestion: In future try arrnaging the people to be sitting or something, and get far back with a tele-lens, or have them seated and next to each other and holding hands so you get their silluette against the darker sunset, showing colour, not burned out as you have. Or maybe have them posed on the end of the dock somehow with the sunset in the background. And make something intentionally sharp in the image.

3. Again a boring non-descript shot and it looks out of focus.

Suggestion: Next time get up close to the edge of the water and down very low maybe a few inches form the water edge and get a wide angle shot showing all the water washing up but CLOSE to the subject matter. Or shot with a tele-lens but get along the shore line and shoot down the water line to show the water coming in, or maybe have a couple walking along the water's edge.

4. The closest to an okay image but again, no thought went into it. You saw it, lifted the camera and took a snap shot, just like every other person could do, so nothing interesting in that is there?

Suggestion: Next time, again get close and low and use the beautiful lines of the boat. Shoot close to the nose and along the side of the boat, or get right down to the sand and shoot the bow rising up above you, again with the lines of the boat creating the beauty in the shot. Of get just a few inches above the bow and to one side with a wide angle lens and shoot into the boat, with possibly the beautiful blue sky contrasting against the white of the boat. Use a polariser if you have one.

Experiment with angle and camera position from portrait to landscape format, low to high above, camera positions. With a wide angle lens you could try holding the camera as high above your head as possible but pointed down into the boat while standing right next to it from the bow and that would afford a very unusual angle to show the boat. This image has the most potential for at least ten very interesting and creative shots.

You just have to take time and think about the image and the surroundings and not just walk along, see a boat away from you and take a snap shot. That is what everyone else does and all their images will look boring too. You need to be creative and make people take note and see the subject in a way they never though about ir or saw it before. We have all seen a boat on a beach the way you just depicted it, so what makes your shot special?

I hope you take something from this and get back and reshoot these scenes. I'd love to see the new well thought out depiction of these same scenes, hopefully you live close by.

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Apr 16, 2012 15:33:05   #
Allegro23 Loc: Illinois Chicagoland Burbs
 
Lucian wrote:
You asked for honest critiques so that is what I will give you. The comments are not meant to run you down but simply to make you think a little more before snapping the photo.

1. This an uninteresting shot of a mess of little sail boats off in the distance. The image is too busy as is and too much empty space.

Suggestion: If you can go back, use a wide angle lens and get up close and point down or get close to a hull and try and use intersting angles to show lots of details that will work in an image. or maybe get right on the sand and shoot up but get the hull(s) in the shot plus the masts as you look towatds the sky. Maybe get low onto one side of a boat and pickout details of part of the boat plus showing other boats off behind the subject matter you are shooting.

2. Another boring shot and it is all out of focus so no help for this one.

Suggestion: In future try arrnaging the people to be sitting or something, and get far back with a tele-lens, or have them seated and next to each other and holding hands so you get their silluette against the darker sunset, showing colour, not burned out as you have. Or maybe have them posed on the end of the dock somehow with the sunset in the background. And make something intentionally sharp in the image.

3. Again a boring non-descript shot and it looks out of focus.

Suggestion: Next time get up close to the edge of the water and down very low maybe a few inches form the water edge and get a wide angle shot showing all the water washing up but CLOSE to the subject matter. Or shot with a tele-lens but get along the shore line and shoot down the water line to show the water coming in, or maybe have a couple walking along the water's edge.

4. The closest to an okay image but again, no thought went into it. You saw it, lifted the camera and took a snap shot, just like every other person could do, so nothing interesting in that is there?

Suggestion: Next time, again get close and low and use the beautiful lines of the boat. Shoot close to the nose and along the side of the boat, or get right down to the sand and shoot the bow rising up above you, again with the lines of the boat creating the beauty in the shot. Of get just a few inches above the bow and to one side with a wide angle lens and shoot into the boat, with possibly the beautiful blue sky contrasting against the white of the boat. Use a polariser if you have one.

Experiment with angle and camera position from portrait to landscape format, low to high above, camera positions. With a wide angle lens you could try holding the camera as high above your head as possible but pointed down into the boat while standing right next to it from the bow and that would afford a very unusual angle to show the boat. This image has the most potential for at least ten very interesting and creative shots.

You just have to take time and think about the image and the surroundings and not just walk along, see a boat away from you and take a snap shot. That is what everyone else does and all their images will look boring too. You need to be creative and make people take note and see the subject in a way they never though about ir or saw it before. We have all seen a boat on a beach the way you just depicted it, so what makes your shot special?

I hope you take something from this and get back and reshoot these scenes. I'd love to see the new well thought out depiction of these same scenes, hopefully you live close by.
You asked for honest critiques so that is what I w... (show quote)


Well thank you for the time and thought you have put into your comments. I don't live close by but I will use your ideas next time. I really appreciate your suggestions, thanks. Oh you will be seeing moe of my stuff, please comment on them .

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