oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA

Threw all my jackets and coats in the trash back in the sixties when i moved to the islands.
Never replaced them but last xmas a neighbor noticed i was shivering and shoved a hoodie in my xmas stocking so i've joined the unwashed masses to some degree.

RRS Loc: Not sure

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rocketride Loc: Upstate NY

The same kind as sees straight through the heads of the rude pros who are getting in the way.

RRS Loc: Not sure

The difference between an amateur and a professional is the pro gets paid, plain and simple. That doesn't mean that the pro's pictures are better just that he/she is being paid. You'd like to think the pro's shots are better but that's not always the case.

MtnMan Loc: ID

Rude behavior suggests to me he isn't a professional at all. Might be hired to do a job but that does not give him the right to be rude.

But it is wrong to attack all professional photographers because of one rude one. All of the professional photographers I have had personal contact with are social adults; i.e. not rude. They realize everyone has a right to their role and behave with the courtesy they were taught starting in kindergarten. Being paid to do a job is not an excuse to behave like an Asshole.

I have also found all of the amateurs gathered at high interest locations; e.g. sunset at the Grand Canyon, to be nice to each other.

ptcanon3ti Loc: NJ

oh boy...un watch is in my future here. :lol:

donnahde Loc: Newark, DE

I've shot 4 mud runs in years past as one of the VOLUNTEER PRO PHOTOGRAPHERS on the team risking damage to our equipment from the splashing mud. We'd put the images on a website for sale and then donate the proceeds back to the organization to benefit leukemia research. We had official credentials and would stake out whatever we felt best. Most spectators understood and we had little trouble. We'd also hand out cards throughout the day telling folks where to find the images. They were also in the competitor's packets but many never saw them there.

The photo taken by the OP shows PLENTY of room to shoot around and beyond the photographer so I really do not understand why he was not able to get any shots of his daughter.

Although I'm no longer shooting mud runs I now do event photography for the schools (sports and more) - for their yearbooks. I'm hired to get great shots of the kids and most of the parents understand that. I do try to find alternative positions so that I'm not directly in front of parents with cameras but if I need to I do and then move to a different spot once I've got a few shots. I am supposed to shoot from different areas of the field or gym anyway but also have to follow the action. I try to be aware and sensitive while at the same time letting parents and others know that I have a job to do.

donnahde Loc: Newark, DE

I shot a casual wedding reception recently and did some family groupings that the couple requested during the event. I worked very hard posing everyone and noticed other family members shooting from the sides as I was shooting and sure enough I got not ONE family grouping order except the one I took of the ENTIRE group since there was no one left out of it to steal a shot. Very frustrating indeed but since this was a last minute referral from a fellow photographer and they'd gotten married in FL the week before I had no contract and no way to really stop this other than to be rude. The groom was in his 80's and the bride in her 70's so it just didn't feel right to make a stink about it. Wish I'd had that assistant to run interference though!

rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA

Have you ever attempted to do a vertical shot while wearing a baseball cap the right way? The rim always gets in the way, sometimes even knocking the hat off.

MHDahle

As a volunteer, I was asked to take photos of the class winners at a local horse show for the organizer's Facebook page. The professional didn't want her work put on Facebook to be taken without being purchased. The professional photographer was taking pictures for sale. If she didn't get the shot and didn't get the rider/rider's parents to buy the photo, she didn't get paid! Working with her was a delight. She liked my position and we shared the spot. When the light shifted, she suggested the new position for pictures, and we shared that spot. She knew I was taking pictures of my friends as well as class winners, but I don't print so whatever they is electronic. Again, she was wonderful to work with. A couple times when I was trying to stay out of her way, she pointed out a place for me to stand.

Being a professional doesn't mean someone has to be rude. She will be invited back for bigger shows because she was pleasant to everyone. When others ask about suggestions for photographers for other events, she will be recommended mostly because of her skill but also because of her attitude!

BigDJim Loc: Dallas TX

Let's hear it for Mr. Gallagher. I do photo shoots for various organizations, and it seems that with cell phones and "point and shoot", everyone thinks they're a photographer. As appointed pros, we're there to do a job, normally benefiting the organization that hired us. All the IPhone and P&Sers are merely creating confusion in their "feeding frenzy" as Mr. G so aptly put it. Let's face it, rudeness can be on both sides of the fence.

mongoose777 Loc: Frisco Texas

Really?
Have you ever thought of the brim getting in the way of your vertical shots while shooting?
Perhaps it was hot enough to wear a ball cap.
My 2 cents.

mongoose777 Loc: Frisco Texas

Your only hearing one side of the argument.
Besides, when Im hired to work a paying gig, the director or persons in charge expect me to or any other pro photog to produce and not to hear excuses that the spectators behind me were shouting out to move out of the way.
Ive shot millions of shots (yes millions) covering events for the past 18 years and if not for the barricades all the spectators would be jumping out in front of me, killing whatever opportunities I would have to do my job in a professional manner. For those who oppose these rules, are clueless and IMO downright selfish.
Please, give it a break.

mongoose777 Loc: Frisco Texas

Its apparent you've never shot events such as this before to really know what your saying.
So, in other words it would be ok to let almost every family member who are behind you, shouting out to move out of the way so they can capture their own shots,
you might as well not even be there because those participants are coming by the herd load and the pro photog has to capture as many as he can in hopes to make the clients happy.
I guarantee you 1000% that the parents or friends would be in the photography companies face about NOT getting shots of their family members or friends or whomever because he was trying to be courteous.
Im sorry, but you don't have time to worry about those around you because you have an important job to do that requires your full attention while not having to deal with spectators complaining because they got their feelings hurt.
PLEASE, think of the other side as well before you jump to assumptions.

mongoose777 Loc: Frisco Texas

Seems like to me you have more issues then you actually realize. You come across as righteous as you expect others should consider your requests when you show no respect for the professional photographer.
Maybe you shouldn't bring your camera because you already feel violated before you come to the states.