B/W-- When and why?
Oct 11, 2011 14:29:32 #
I meant because you mentioned getting film pictures back with results that the photographer didn't make.
I was just saying best results come when you don't send anything away.
I was just saying best results come when you don't send anything away.
Oct 11, 2011 14:30:12 #
I have done this experment many times. I have someone look through photo books that are both B&W and Color and then when they had finished I asked to tell me which 5 prints made the most lasting impresion on them. B&W were the ones remember 4 out of 5 times. Not an answear to which is best but interesting. Dave
Oct 11, 2011 14:52:41 #
I wonder how Ansel Adams would have answered your question. I never convert a color to black and white. If I want a b&w photo I will shoot in the b&w mode.
Oct 11, 2011 14:56:37 #
photosbyhenry wrote:
I wonder how Ansel Adams would have answered your question. I never convert a color to black and white. If I want a b&w photo I will shoot in the b&w mode.
You are still converting color to black and white.
Your camera still has a color sensor when you shoot with the in-camera black and white mode. It converts it to black and white with the computing power of your camera. Your computer, with its exponentially more powerful processor and more advanced software criteria for conversion, can do a better job of converting the color data coming off the sensor into black and white than the little processor in your camera.
Oct 11, 2011 15:03:03 #
Even when you shoot in the T-Max and Tri-X modes on my Kodak camera?
Oct 11, 2011 15:06:11 #
photosbyhenry wrote:
Even when you shoot in the T-Max and Tri-X modes on my Kodak camera?
Are you calling films "modes?"
Oct 11, 2011 15:11:21 #
Black and White, In my mind represents both sides of the spectrum and makes an amazing picture (depending on the subject matter)I feel feelings and emotions are best displayed in black in white.
Oct 11, 2011 15:18:27 #
MPratter wrote:
quote=photosbyhenry I wonder how Ansel Adams woul... (show quote)
Well.... not exactly. First the sensor is composed of sets of photo sensors. With red, blue, and green filters in front of photo sensitive sensors that actually can only sense black and white. The filter in front will eliminate all unwanted colors. Your image file is a collection of filtered black and white photo sensor inputs. Much as in film with a color filter in front of the lens, but in tiny tiny little bits that make up the whole image. Teeny, teeny, tiny little bits. No kibbles, just bits:-).
The B&W image created by a camera is set once captured and is limited to adjustments like tonally of the final image. Using post-processing to convert with tools like color levels, color curves, color channel mixer, and others the degree of control over the final image is greatly increased.
Oct 11, 2011 15:21:16 #
Oct 11, 2011 15:22:05 #
No. On my Kodak camera it has the settings to shoot so that the photos look like they have been taken with the the Kodacolor-Ektachrome-Kodachrome-T-Max and Tri-X films. There is also a sepia. I can set the camera for Vivid color-Full color-Basic-Black and white and sepia also.
Oct 11, 2011 15:24:48 #
photocat
Loc: Atlanta, Ga
I have been doing darkroom work for 64 years, and have never had any one else process the negatives or make my prints. Why would you think i had no hands on experience!
Oct 11, 2011 15:27:49 #
Good explination. Cliff Claven would be proud. I also read where the pixels or bits were less when you shoot in the b&w mode verses the hundreds of colcor bits. Thanks again.
Oct 11, 2011 15:30:06 #
Oct 11, 2011 15:32:38 #
photocat wrote:
I have been doing darkroom work for 64 years, and have never had any one else process the negatives or make my prints. Why would you think i had no hands on experience!
I'm not accusing you of having no hands on experience at all. I was just responding to when you said something bout people getting their pictures back and not being happy with them. I was saying that it means they sent 'em out, and that was the problem.
Oct 11, 2011 16:27:05 #
photocat
Loc: Atlanta, Ga
Ok, i was trying to say, they don't like tham becasue they don't know what they are doing. little if no knowldege about grey scale.
It would seem the OP has gotten more infomration than they need for all this :) or perhaps expected.
It would seem the OP has gotten more infomration than they need for all this :) or perhaps expected.
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