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Jul 18, 2015 22:22:02   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
PNagy wrote:
wlgoode wrote:
And 97% of Climate Scientists are robbing taxes? But it's OK if the true robbers, the fossil fuel barons hire the other 3% of Climate Scientists to lie for them? Try logic for once, everything they have predicted has come true!!! They even predicted the snowball Inhoff used to make a laughing stock of himself! And they explained the reason for the cold winters so that a six-grader could understand, ask a six-grader about it.


FrenchY: Al Gore 15 years ago, declare that the ocean will raise 3 to 4 meters , and 4 years ago , he "took the chance" of the life time and bought an ocean front property in California of all places


Nagy: French has dropped an utter non sequitur on us. al Gore is not a climate scientist, nor the originator of any global warming scare.
wlgoode wrote: br And 97% of Climate Scientists ar... (show quote)


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Jul 18, 2015 22:41:59   #
bob44044 Loc: Ohio
 
dirtpusher wrote:
http://www.npr.org/2015/07/17/423641023/science-confirms-2014-was-hottest-yet-recorded-on-land-and-sea


Don't believe anything the liberal propaganda machine NPR says. Second, it's already been established that the so called lying WX scientists that have their hands in the cookie jar, used false data to make their determination.

Once they've been caught lying, we have no reason to ever believe them again.

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Jul 18, 2015 22:43:44   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
Cykdelic: Well, perhaps you are missing the point. The excess ice in some areas is larger than the receding ice in others-------- ie worldwide ice is UP!


Nagy: Your statement categorically contradicts the measurements of scientists.

http://oceanservice.noaa.gov/education/pd/climate/factsheets/isamount.pdf

The reason may be a deliberate right wing attempt to conflate the trends in Antarctic sea ice with land ice. The land ice, formed over thousands of years is decreasing at an alarming rate, while the sea ice is increasing at a lesser rate.

https://www.skepticalscience.com/antarctica-gaining-ice-intermediate.htm

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Jul 18, 2015 22:46:09   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
bob44044 wrote:
Don't believe anything the liberal propaganda machine NPR says. Second, it's already been established that the so called lying WX scientists that have their hands in the cookie jar, used false data to make their determination.

Once they've been caught lying, we have no reason to ever believe them again.


yet you dig right in to fox :?: :?: :?:

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Jul 18, 2015 22:51:48   #
PNagy Loc: Missouri City, Texas
 
Cykdelic: Nagy, you absolute moron! Why don't you quite lying and attributed direct quotes to the wrong people.

UR an ass.



Nagy: Sorry, you all seem the same to me. Did I confuse you with one off your clones?

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Jul 18, 2015 22:52:57   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
part of this worlds ice is building

http://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=part+of+this+world+ice+is+building

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Jul 18, 2015 23:21:55   #
Shutter Bugger
 
bob44044 wrote:
Don't believe anything the liberal propaganda machine NPR says. Second, it's already been established that the so called lying WX scientists that have their hands in the cookie jar, used false data to make their determination.

Once they've been caught lying, we have no reason to ever believe them again.


Pffft.

You may not believe the Australian Bureau of Meteorology but I do.
They have no agenda apart from reporting measurements taken
from stations all over Australia and Antarctica... for generations.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/

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Jul 18, 2015 23:51:03   #
bgl Loc: Brooklyn,New York
 
The earth's climate has been in flux since its creation. This is not disputable. We live with many examples every day of climate change that is irrefutably attributable to man. Take pollution from factories, power plants, cars and trucks - you know, that pall that hangs over many large cities. When the air is unhealthy to breathe or the sun doesn't shine - that's climate change and it is observed by millions of us. And it seems that when you have this smog in the air it traps heat. If we dump toxic waste and garbage in the ocean and create areas where the fish don't go and grow or where they are malformed - that's climate change. When the Swiss cover their alpine slopes with plastic film to prevent snow melt, that is related to climate change. These are all things that you can see, touch and smell, they are not made up stories by people with an agenda. When they had to move the Alaskan Iditarod because there wan't enough snow - that's climate change related. All climate change isn't necessarily or uniformly bad but we ought to look at the bad stuff and do something about it.

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Jul 18, 2015 23:53:08   #
johnsong1
 
Nitrogen-78%
Oxygen-21%
Argon-0.9%
Trace gases, which includes ALL the green house gases-0.1%
It's hard to grasp how changes in parts of the Trace atmospheric gases can cause such havoc as espoused by some of these scientists.

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Jul 19, 2015 00:06:01   #
bgl Loc: Brooklyn,New York
 
About 71 percent of the Earth's surface is water-covered, and the oceans hold about 96.5 percent of all Earth's water. Maybe the atmosphere over the oceans is much less polluted than over the populated land masses. That might explain an overall low percentage of greenhouse gases with a higher percentage over the big cities. I'm just guessing - this isn't my field of expertise.

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Jul 19, 2015 00:33:35   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
theoldcougar wrote:
Whats the worst that could happen? Cast aspersions on my logic if you like Cykdelic, the logic is explained much more succinctly by Greg Craven.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zORv8wwiadQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE6Kdo1AQmY

Please watch them carefully.

Perhaps a change in terms is in order. Global warming and climate change are not particularly scary conditions with the obvious procrastination regarding how we respond to their impact. I am convinced that the issue is far more severe and terms like climate destabilization, disintegration or climate destruction are in order. Only by escalating the magnitude of the problem will humanity seriously begin the process of fixing climate destruction, if it is even possible.

As Craven says, we will only get one chance to fix the problem so here are a couple things that we can do now.

Elon Musk has introduced a new product called "Powerwall", a solar charged battery available in 10kW increments (orders now being taken at $3500 per 10kW) that could replace dependency on the current power grid. His claim is that the technology can be scaled up to national and world-wide levels and he is building a factory to get the process started.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKORsrlN-2k

Get over our morbid fear of nuclear energy. Fact: 32 people died from RADIATION causes in Chernobyl, the worst nuclear accident to date, 0, that's zero, from RADIATION causes in Fukishima. And yet we continue the morbid fear of all things nuclear. If we can overcome this fear there is a 50 years old nuclear technology available to us that can completely eliminate fossil fuels as an energy source for power and transportation combined. It is the Liquid Fuel Thorium Reactor. Kirk Sorenson explains in the following:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK367T7h6ZY

So, in short, these two ideas together could completely eliminate our dependence on fossil fuels throughout the world. Will we act, the cynic in me says not until its a tangible crisis, the optimist says we must act and act now. BTW, guess who is using the technology developed by us, using profits from rare earth exports among everything else, none other than China. What does it take for Americans to demand action when viable solutions stare them in the face to overcome the nuclear bogeyman. Are we going to let China sell us our energy after we run out of oil?

Watch the videos, they present doable solutions now.
Whats the worst that could happen? Cast aspersions... (show quote)


Good videos that make a lot of sense. The problems lies when deniers put "Oh hell no" in all columns allowing ideology to preclude any possibility of global warming. Let's stop calling it "Climate Change" that was the GOP framing to make it sound not so dreadful. Those who believe 97% of climate scientists form a decided consensus should use Global Warming as the term.

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Jul 19, 2015 02:06:19   #
Nalle Loc: Tellus
 
http://gizmodo.com/2014-was-the-warmest-year-on-record-1718306271

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Jul 19, 2015 02:27:03   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
Shutter Bugger wrote:
Pffft.

You may not believe the Australian Bureau of Meteorology but I do.
They have no agenda apart from reporting measurements taken
from stations all over Australia and Antarctica... for generations.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/


we just came out of a 7 year major drought... wonder why beef is so high..

last two months we got 24 in. of rain....

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Jul 19, 2015 02:32:07   #
dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma
 
wlgoode wrote:
Good videos that make a lot of sense. The problems lies when deniers put "Oh hell no" in all columns allowing ideology to preclude any possibility of global warming. Let's stop calling it "Climate Change" that was the GOP framing to make it sound not so dreadful. Those who believe 97% of climate scientists form a decided consensus should use Global Warming as the term.


Stable Antarctic Ice Is Suddenly Melting Fast

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stable-antarctic-ice-is-suddenly-melting-fast/

Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis | Sea ice data updated daily

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

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Jul 19, 2015 06:54:30   #
kantstandit
 
So cool, you respond by posting more nonsense and not addressing the act of the 97. Ever ask yourself how did they get the global temperatures from 1880 in those charts? No guessing. So tell me, in the last 19 years how much warmer has the earth become? Try hard now and no ridiculous links. Here is a hint, zero degrees. How much warmer will it become in say 15 to 20 years? Here is another hint, a lot cooler.

Every single study, every single prediction of the omnipotent global warming alarmists has been wrong. I would also ask you you final question before you go fret and pout. Can you name me one, just one other theory in any branch of science that was decided by majority rules and is settled science? Just one, cause it is not gravity, not theory of relativity, not DNA, not what dinosaurs looked like or how they died off, not even darwin's evolution, not quantum mechanics, not the Big Bang, why only global alarming? While you ponder consider the godman Al Gore and why does he hold the patent for the carbon exchange database that has not gotten off the ground yet but everyone would have to use to trade carbon credits? And how much lower will you make the earth's temperature with a single carbon credit compared to how much richer will you make Gore?

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