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Jul 14, 2015 08:50:57   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
sodapop wrote:
I have searched UHH for discussions on the wisdom of upgrading to Win 10 and it looks like it is best to hold off for a while to see what shakes out of the transition. However, the little window icon at the bottom right of my screen beckons. What would be the danger and complications involved in moving from 8.1 to 10 and would there be any impact on Photoshop CC and Lightroom CC both of which I have? I am sure it will not hurt the PP programs but wonder if it would produce a confusing mess to relearn, as win 8 was. I now have the shell and use the old screen as it was in win 7. Will keeping that "old" screen be a problem in Win 10?
Any light anyone could shed on this would be appreciated.
I have searched UHH for discussions on the wisdom ... (show quote)


Both my PCs are using a SSD for the operating system. This makes it very easy to do an image backup of the entire SSD. I use a product called Acronis which allow the copy of an entire partition from one drive to another drive.

I will back up the partition before installing Windows 10. If it doesn't work out, I will simply copy the partition back again.

For each PC, I keep several hard drives in rotation and copy the partition as a backup on a regular basis.

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Jul 14, 2015 08:59:33   #
Jim Plogger Loc: East Tennessee
 
Armadillo wrote:
sodapop,

Based on past history with Microsoft and it's new Windows versions sinceWin-98 you are wise to let the bugs shake out before upgrading.

As for that annoying little icon, in the bottom right corner of the screen, begging you to upgrade, that is a recent update installed on your system a few months ago. You can search Google, or go to Windows Support and search for the update that installed that special update and remove the update.

This kind of crap is why we should always check uot the update before installing them from Microsoft.

Michael G
sodapop, br br Based on past history with Microso... (show quote)


The update is KB3035583.

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Jul 14, 2015 09:09:30   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
I have a Toshiba with a i7 in it it has come to my attention that my video card will not work right with win 10 it's a Intel 4000 HD card? I found this out on a few of the internet forum's bummer?

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Jul 14, 2015 09:25:19   #
MIKE GALLAGHER Loc: New Zealand
 
I took the reservation deal and downloaded Win 10. Haven't used it yet. Win 7 is till doing its thing for me so I still have the options open. But the time'll come when I have to either use the free Win10 or pay for it when 7 follows XP down the tube. Might as well have the free one to hand.

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Jul 14, 2015 09:25:28   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
My FYI is to wait a few months. For reasons that may not matter to most, it seems that anything "Windows" even number is the worst until the bugs get ironed out.

That is something to consider plus when they do find out problems from the real world, it'll take a few months to send all the corrective upgrades. I for one don't need the hassle of having a ton of upgrades everytime I shutdown. (In a matter of speaking that is.)

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Jul 14, 2015 10:05:32   #
ebbote Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
According to all that I have read, there will be no service packs for Windows 10 period, all improvements will be done
through Windows updates as they come up along.

Photocraig wrote:
As a long time WIndows user and a Computer Idustry veteran, I will never voluntraiy upgrade to a Windows OS before their Service Pack 2 release. The user and applications base for these products are so vast and diverse that however robust their testing might be they could never account for all the variables and combinations of real customer use. Many could write dissertations on how MS might imrpove, but reality tells us that after the OS is out for about 9-12 months, enough bugs and "non features" are discovered that the SP2 brings the OS up to a pretty trouble free and secure condition. History shows that, too.

So, waiting makes sense. And, if purchasing new today, I'd suggest W-8 with the ability to exercise the free upgrade to 10 would be te best course.
As a long time WIndows user and a Computer Idustry... (show quote)

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Jul 14, 2015 10:15:23   #
tmehrkam Loc: Houston,Tx
 
No use to us home users but there will have to be service packs of they want businesses to use it.

We never install an update before it is tested by the IT department to make sure nothing beaks. Then it is pushed down to all the users.

I development instruments used for oil exploration. Unfortunately we are using Windows. "Linux is easier to manage" We have to control what updates are installed and when. Our systems spend most of their life's off the grid with no internet connectivity. Updates are installed when a field service engineer brings patches on a USB stick.

Hospitals are another place where automatic updates are never done. I would not want to be in a CAT scan machine that just got an update from Microsoft.

Aircraft, Ships engine controls are other applications where this is not acceptable.

I was riding a research vessel after an update to the Engine software that was windows based. There was a bug that caused both engines to shut down. Caused five million dollars damage to the sensor cables and it took two months to untangle and repair the equipment.

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Jul 14, 2015 10:38:41   #
BatManPete Loc: Way Up North!
 
This won't answer Ur' question..... but I sure have used the "GEEK SQUAD" . . . many years.... 90% of time I can solve problems... Have Fun!

http://www.howtogeek.com/218700/how-to-count-pages-words-characters-paragraphs-and-lines-in-a-word-document/

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Jul 14, 2015 10:43:20   #
tbohon Loc: Olympia, WA USA
 
Photocraig wrote:
As a long time WIndows user and a Computer Idustry veteran, I will never voluntraiy upgrade to a Windows OS before their Service Pack 2 release. The user and applications base for these products are so vast and diverse that however robust their testing might be they could never account for all the variables and combinations of real customer use. Many could write dissertations on how MS might imrpove, but reality tells us that after the OS is out for about 9-12 months, enough bugs and "non features" are discovered that the SP2 brings the OS up to a pretty trouble free and secure condition. History shows that, too.

So, waiting makes sense. And, if purchasing new today, I'd suggest W-8 with the ability to exercise the free upgrade to 10 would be te best course.
As a long time WIndows user and a Computer Idustry... (show quote)


Amen! I've been in IT for almost 50 years and will never upgrade to a new Window$ operating system right off the bat - I ALWAYS wait at least 6 months, sometimes longer so that I don't have to deal with the inevitable patches and fixes that always follow such releases.

By all means reserve your copy if you wish but you have a year to upgrade for free. I would definitely wait to see how many critical bugs are embedded in this initial release before committing to the upgrade.

FWIW nobody gives anything away for free these days, especially Micro$oft ... I just can't figure out their angle (it ain't that they're feeling generous, trust me :) ).

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Jul 14, 2015 10:57:43   #
tmehrkam Loc: Houston,Tx
 
I suspect they are trying to preserve market share. They will make money on new system sales.

Apple and Android have them worried.

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Jul 14, 2015 11:09:42   #
tbohon Loc: Olympia, WA USA
 
tmehrkam wrote:
I suspect they are trying to preserve market share. They will make money on new system sales.

Apple and Android have them worried.


You're probably right. I'd switch if I didn't live in a M$ world at work. Next year, when my job goes away and I'm laid off (too old and make too much money after 50 years) I'll re-evaluate the operating system I use.

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Jul 14, 2015 11:34:01   #
john vance Loc: Granbury,Texas
 
sodapop wrote:
I have searched UHH for discussions on the wisdom of upgrading to Win 10 and it looks like it is best to hold off for a while to see what shakes out of the transition. However, the little window icon at the bottom right of my screen beckons. What would be the danger and complications involved in moving from 8.1 to 10 and would there be any impact on Photoshop CC and Lightroom CC both of which I have? I am sure it will not hurt the PP programs but wonder if it would produce a confusing mess to relearn, as win 8 was. I now have the shell and use the old screen as it was in win 7. Will keeping that "old" screen be a problem in Win 10?
Any light anyone could shed on this would be appreciated.
I have searched UHH for discussions on the wisdom ... (show quote)

I built a new computer for win 10 it works great, only problems I have, is when scrolling with mouse, it scrolls to far and power desk will not work, all other programs work great including photo shop.

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Jul 14, 2015 11:34:54   #
Nelson.I Loc: Monument, Colorado, USA
 
GDRoth wrote:
Is WIN 10 a 64 bit system


Windows 10 has versions for 32bit and 64bit architectures.

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Jul 14, 2015 11:38:33   #
PeterDragon Loc: Harlan, KY - Kona, HI - Phoenix, AZ
 
RichardSM wrote:
I have a Toshiba with a i7 in it it has come to my attention that my video card will not work right with win 10 it's a Intel 4000 HD card? I found this out on a few of the internet forum's bummer?


I visited the Intel site a few minutes ago and they said that they will issue a driver for Windows 10. Run your test again and see if the warning has disappeared.

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Jul 14, 2015 12:10:42   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
I am more concerned about which version they will be giving us free of charge. Windows comes in many packages. Basic, Home Premium, etc. The most basic version may not have all the bells and whistles you want and then they have you by the short hairs to pay for an upgrade to the more premium version.

sodapop wrote:
I have searched UHH for discussions on the wisdom of upgrading to Win 10 and it looks like it is best to hold off for a while to see what shakes out of the transition. However, the little window icon at the bottom right of my screen beckons. What would be the danger and complications involved in moving from 8.1 to 10 and would there be any impact on Photoshop CC and Lightroom CC both of which I have? I am sure it will not hurt the PP programs but wonder if it would produce a confusing mess to relearn, as win 8 was. I now have the shell and use the old screen as it was in win 7. Will keeping that "old" screen be a problem in Win 10?
Any light anyone could shed on this would be appreciated.
I have searched UHH for discussions on the wisdom ... (show quote)

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