cjc2
Loc: Hellertown PA
I was once asked to shoot a wedding for $25, and just hand over the film! This request came the day before the event! Unfortunately for the couple I was busy. I was watching my car rust!
Bobbee wrote:
I always thought my bids were lower than they should be. Even then I get AOT of people saying they found someone cheaper. Read down to the message. Now I know why. As Mullner said.....They are out there.
Dawn P.
What
Need a Wedding Photographer
Photo needs
Wedding preparation (e.g. getting ready), Wedding ceremony, Wedding reception, I'm not sure yet
Photo style
Candid (captured in the moment), Other (whatever looks amazing)
Guests
50-100
Photographer required to travel to multiple locations?
Yes - describe distance/mileage (maybe)
Photo products
CD / DVD, Physical proofs and prints, Ability to purchase prints online, I'm not sure
Total budget for photographer's services and images
$400-$600
Phone call or meeting
Other (EMAIL for now)
When is the best date for a call or in person meeting?
As soon as possible
Best time
Late afternoon (3-6pm)
Engagement photos needed
No
Message
I honestly want a price cheaper than that. I have someone that offered this too me.
Package 1- the whole day including a cd of all your pictures with editing if needed.
Package 2- for the whole day including a cd of all your pictures with editing if needed and a few prints, 8�10 (2) 5�7 (5). These packages ran below 150$ but the problem is that she work alone. We may need to photographer for at least the morning getting ready part. The women bridal party maybe in a different location than the groom party.
When
Date: Sat Oct 10 2015 Time: 4pm Length: 0 hours
Where
Land O Lakes, FL 34638
Phone number
Not available
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I'm sure glad photography is just a hobby for me. I really sympathize with you professional photographers out there.
I enjoy reading this kind of thread. I am an amateur, really amateur, photographer. However, I am professionally a programmer. It's amazing listening to people tell me how easy it is to write code. It is easy to write code. Just like it is easy to take pictures. You get what you pay for.
First marriage SO and I went with a pro-photographer. The pics were great and we were very pleased. Money well spent. I don't get to recommend photographers often; but, when I have I always say get a professional... oh, and research them.
Nelson.I wrote:
I enjoy reading this kind of thread. I am an amateur, really amateur, photographer. However, I am professionally a programmer. It's amazing listening to people tell me how easy it is to write code. It is easy to write code. Just like it is easy to take pictures. You get what you pay for.
First marriage SO and I went with a pro-photographer. The pics were great and we were very pleased. Money well spent. I don't get to recommend photographers often; but, when I have I always say get a professional... oh, and research them.
I enjoy reading this kind of thread. I am an amat... (
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(Separate question.)
Nelson, I was wondering what you and possibly others feel like everytime you see another program on the market that does similar end result work as what you do?
Nelson.I wrote:
I enjoy reading this kind of thread. I am an amateur, really amateur, photographer. However, I am professionally a programmer. It's amazing listening to people tell me how easy it is to write code. It is easy to write code. Just like it is easy to take pictures. You get what you pay for.
First marriage SO and I went with a pro-photographer. The pics were great and we were very pleased. Money well spent. I don't get to recommend photographers often; but, when I have I always say get a professional... oh, and research them.
I enjoy reading this kind of thread. I am an amat... (
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So,
Nelson,
-Started professionally 1976
-Programming since 1973
-Couple degrees
-tons of side classes plus I teach
-my resume is 22 pages long and not one person complains
-CICS/DB2 for 25 years,
-Assembler and Cobol programmer
-now MQ, MFT.MQAMS,Message Broker (aka IIB) - Middleware person
-About to embark on Watson
-JAVA/C/PERL/various scripting languages
-World wide technical consultant/management
So, this all leads up to this, now I ask..................you don't think programming is easy? LOL I do, but........................................
Actually it did come easy, but I would change your statement. You DEF have to be a certain type of mind-set.
GENorkus wrote:
(Separate question.)
Nelson, I was wondering what you and possibly others feel like everytime you see another program on the market that does similar end result work as what you do?
I tell my customer, you can pick any system you want, but if you pick theirs.................you don't get me!! After that it is downhill from there.
You can ask for whatever you want. That does not mean you will get it. The Axiom "you get what you pay for" is very true also in wedding photography.
Jack
GENorkus wrote:
(Separate question.)
Nelson, I was wondering what you and possibly others feel like everytime you see another program on the market that does similar end result work as what you do?
I learn from it. I don't, per se, have to have the source. I just figure out what it does that might be better than what I have.
Bobbee wrote:
So,
Nelson,
-Started professionally 1976
-Programming since 1973
-Couple degrees
-tons of side classes plus I teach
-my resume is 22 pages long and not one person complains
-CICS/DB2 for 25 years,
-Assembler and Cobol programmer
-now MQ, MFT.MQAMS,Message Broker (aka IIB) - Middleware person
-About to embark on Watson
-JAVA/C/PERL/various scripting languages
-World wide technical consultant/management
So, this all leads up to this, now I ask..................you don't think programming is easy? LOL I do, but........................................
Actually it did come easy, but I would change your statement. You DEF have to be a certain type of mind-set.
So, br Nelson, br br -Started professionally 1976... (
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Have I mentioned I hate you! 8-)
My resume is only 5 pages long. Having a "certain type of mind-set" is true for both photography AND programming. Programming is easy... programming robust, maintainable, well thought out code is not. Photography is easy... photographing a good, story telling, flattering, well composed, awesome looking picture is not. Both take a butt-load (a butt load is 63 gallons BTW) of learning, practice, refinement, practice, thinking, practice, study, practice, and effort.
Nelson.I wrote:
Have I mentioned I hate you! 8-)
My resume is only 5 pages long. Having a "certain type of mind-set" is true for both photography AND programming. Programming is easy... programming robust, maintainable, well thought out code is not. Photography is easy... photographing a good, story telling, flattering, well composed, awesome looking picture is not. Both take a butt-load (a butt load is 63 gallons BTW) of learning, practice, refinement, practice, thinking, practice, study, practice, and effort.
Have I mentioned I hate you! 8-) br br My resume... (
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Your preaching to the choir. Yeah, I learn from the best and the hard way (Like read through multiple 4-5 foot high system core dumps looking for that elusive out of memory condition caused by a program that did not respect address boundaries or running around like an idiot, doing the try, try again thing, to get the correct picture. Yes, you are 101% correct. Although I will correct you on one point, it 62.147. LOL
Nelson.I wrote:
Have I mentioned I hate you! 8-)
My resume is only 5 pages long. Having a "certain type of mind-set" is true for both photography AND programming. Programming is easy... programming robust, maintainable, well thought out code is not. Photography is easy... photographing a good, story telling, flattering, well composed, awesome looking picture is not. Both take a butt-load (a butt load is 63 gallons BTW) of learning, practice, refinement, practice, thinking, practice, study, practice, and effort.
Have I mentioned I hate you! 8-) br br My resume... (
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OH, BTW, on the hate thing, stand in line and take a number. LOL
I have stopped using Thumbtack because people are looking for the cheapest price, not the best photographer.
Bobbee wrote:
I always thought my bids were lower than they should be. Even then I get AOT of people saying they found someone cheaper. Read down to the message. Now I know why. As Mullner said.....They are out there.
Dawn P.
What
Need a Wedding Photographer
Photo needs
Wedding preparation (e.g. getting ready), Wedding ceremony, Wedding reception, I'm not sure yet
Photo style
Candid (captured in the moment), Other (whatever looks amazing)
Guests
50-100
Photographer required to travel to multiple locations?
Yes - describe distance/mileage (maybe)
Photo products
CD / DVD, Physical proofs and prints, Ability to purchase prints online, I'm not sure
Total budget for photographer's services and images
$400-$600
Phone call or meeting
Other (EMAIL for now)
When is the best date for a call or in person meeting?
As soon as possible
Best time
Late afternoon (3-6pm)
Engagement photos needed
No
Message
I honestly want a price cheaper than that. I have someone that offered this too me.
Package 1- the whole day including a cd of all your pictures with editing if needed.
Package 2- for the whole day including a cd of all your pictures with editing if needed and a few prints, 8�10 (2) 5�7 (5). These packages ran below 150$ but the problem is that she work alone. We may need to photographer for at least the morning getting ready part. The women bridal party maybe in a different location than the groom party.
When
Date: Sat Oct 10 2015 Time: 4pm Length: 0 hours
Where
Land O Lakes, FL 34638
Phone number
Not available
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JustMePB
Loc: Currently Indian Trail, NC.
I am not a Pro Photographer. I do it out of pleasure. I've done 2 weddings. The first was for a friend who said he couldn't afford a Pro... asked me to take the pictures. He provided the film (slide). I set up a slide projector for the family/friends. They loved my work, etc, etc. 2 monthes later I heard that I "screwed them over" because they took the slides to a cheap shop to be printed. They wanted custom printing and it was going to cost money. I told them you paid for what you got.... my time at no cost. I will not even consider doing weddings for a friend as a favor. Second wedding I did was not as a photographer. My wife and I were asked as guests. Got there, just throw away cameras on the tables. I went out to car and got my camera. Took lots of photos. Spent hours post processing the photos. The wedding was actually 2.... mother and daughter. I made up 2 books (8x10's) and gave them to the family. Made it look like 2 different weddings. They cried when they looked at them. Tried to pay me for my work. I told them it (they) were my wedding presents to the family. They were poor folks and I knew it. While at a Bluegrass show the mother walked up to me and handed me an envelope. In it was $50. I tried to give it back saying that there was no charge....wedding present. Mother said that my work made their day. Their family wanted to know how they could have afforded a Pro Photographer. That made my day.
But, I just don't do weddings.
Nelson.I wrote:
I learn from it. I don't, per se, have to have the source. I just figure out what it does that might be better than what I have.
Always good to see someone elses take on how to do the same or similar tasks, take inspiration from the good bits, and improve on them. :)
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