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Jun 23, 2015 09:36:05   #
big-guy Loc: Peterborough Ontario Canada
 
rdgreenwood wrote:
COMPOSITION


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Jun 23, 2015 09:36:39   #
kitcar Loc: Liverpool.Merseyside. UK
 
DickW wrote:
I'd start with pictures and then discussing what we got and how we might like to change or improve the results. The camera, equipment, exposure triangle, composition, lighting, filters, post, etc. are all means to the end of the resulting image. And for newbies, I fear starting with these could get in the way of taking pictures (which I think is why most of us have cameras and came to photography in the first place). The rest can all be introduced as a result of taking and discussing pictures, deciding how to make them better, trying to do that and seeing the results.
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Jun 23, 2015 09:37:02   #
PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North
 
MtnMan wrote:
Boring. Bet half wouldn't come back after first class.

They first need the WIIFM feel good.


What makes you think the other half will come back? I agree - pix first, mechanics later for those who want them.

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Jun 23, 2015 09:39:29   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Gene51 wrote:
I do this all the time. My most successful approach with nearly all age groups (from teens to old farts), is to set the camera on auto everything and make them go out and take pictures. With the older students I might impose a theme - street photography, circles, rectangles, street lighting, a day at the zoo (both people and animals), dogs in the park, happy faces, cars and motorcycles, rain puddles and reflections, etc etc - just to get them engaged immediately and break the ice for those that are shy and inhibited. Then we discuss what was worked and what didn't and why.

The least effective method is to bore them to death with fundamentals, theory, history, etc etc etc. They are in a class or workshop to learn about their cameras and about their creative muse - so everything must be student-centered. Eventually, after a few rounds of assignments and critique, both mine and each others - then their appetite is ready for more complex and detailed information. I may do an entire workshop without once mentioning fstops, shutter speeds ISO - unless they ask. Then I keep it very very simple - this lets in more light, that lets in less - and so on.
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Ah, the experience of a real teacher at last!

I bet they all are eager to come to your next class and the word gets out so your classes fill up. Well done!

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Jun 23, 2015 09:42:38   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
MtnMan wrote:
Boring. Bet half wouldn't come back after first class.

They first need the WIIFM feel good.


I think you are describing the "how to take snapshots" class. not PHOTOGRAPHY students. Let the former leave and continue to use their cellphones. The latter are motivated to LEARN.

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Jun 23, 2015 09:59:21   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
In this age of instant gratification, would first explain what the little symbols, buttons, wheels, etc., on their cameras mean, and when, how, and where they can be used.

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Jun 23, 2015 10:00:15   #
Normafries Loc: San Jose CA
 
I completely agree with Dick. I start with my students by having them bring in 10 pictures that they like or don't like. We go into a lot of discussion about why they think what they do and what I think as well. One said this made all the difference. Of course we eventually had to get into the fundamentals of the camera and software post-processing tools. But talking about the tools up front before discussing what the person wants in their images can sometimes cause the person to lose interest. My two cents.

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Jun 23, 2015 10:13:36   #
RickH Loc: Toronto, Canada
 
I'd start with theory: the triangle of ISO, aperture, and shutter speed. Then we would do a hands on session with these three variables. That would be lesson one.

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Jun 23, 2015 10:21:32   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
nicksr1125 wrote:
Agree with SonyA580. You have to understand the basics before moving on to composition. You don't have to be a master of exposure, just understand the relationships & how to determine a good exposure.


Perhaps, but most 'newbies' will be shooting in the "P" mode.

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Jun 23, 2015 10:22:45   #
bigmare
 
After all the technical things have been learned, I would tell the students to practice, practice, practice. And think outside the box and don't be afraid to break the rules.

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Jun 23, 2015 10:23:26   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
sirlensalot wrote:
In this age of instant gratification, would first explain what the little symbols, buttons, wheels, etc., on their cameras mean, and when, how, and where they can be used.


Pandering to instant gratification won't produce photographers. Anyhow the topic is too ill defined. Are we trying to teach an average class of bored young people who are more interested in texting their friends, and wishing they were at the beach, or are we teaching adults motivated by a sincere need to LEARN something? BIG difference!

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Jun 23, 2015 10:23:34   #
Vega73 Loc: Pennsylvania
 
I have been involved with several college photography classes, and the first highlight is always a photo history, then f stops, shutter speed and very brief mechanics. That takes 45 minutes to 1 hour

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Jun 23, 2015 10:23:49   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
Joel Sartore's Great Courses introduction would be a good start
I liked it very much
Very thorough and well done
A good starter

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Jun 23, 2015 10:23:54   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
I'd start with EXposure and DOF

Jimbo9948 wrote:
If you were teaching photography to a group of relative newbies, where would you begin?
Lets see how many different opinions we get.

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Jun 23, 2015 10:26:35   #
Normafries Loc: San Jose CA
 
Normafries wrote:
I completely agree with Dick. I start with my students by having them bring in 10 pictures that they like or don't like. We go into a lot of discussion about why they think what they do and what I think as well. One said this made all the difference. Of course we eventually had to get into the fundamentals of the camera and software post-processing tools. But talking about the tools up front before discussing what the person wants in their images can sometimes cause the person to lose interest. My two cents.
I completely agree with Dick. I start with my stud... (show quote)


Oh and maybe one more cent.....haven't we all seen technically well done photos that are boring boring boring? That is the other reason I think it can help to go through the artistry part somewhere in the beginning. For me, any way, that helped me to get motivated to practice practice practice!

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