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May 22, 2015 15:28:57   #
Gitzo Loc: Indiana
 
This was posted in The Attic: if you read it any place else, I suggest you call the cops.

Bulletin: Bikers Planning Retaliation Against Texas Police
As seen on Fox and Friends

Texas police are on high alert amid new threats from biker gangs.

A bulletin issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety warns that the Bandidos biker gang may be planning to target high-ranking officers and their families.

Former Undercover Agent Reveals Most Dangerous Biker Gangs in U.S.

The bulletin says that Bandidos members in the military are supplying the gang with explosives, and that the gang is planning to detonate car bombs.

These attacks would be in retaliation against police for shooting “their brothers” in last weekend’s Waco shootout.

CNN reported:

The gang has ordered a hit against Texas troopers and other officers, according to the bulletin. Among the threats are running over officers at traffic stops and the use of grenades and Molotov cocktails and firearms.

The bulletin includes some locations as possible targets: McLennan County Jail in Waco as well as sites in Austin, El Paso, Dallas, Corpus Christi and Houston.

The Texas Department of Public Safety didn't immediately respond to CNN's request for comment.

Judge Napolitano on Biker Gangs: 'This Is Going to Get Worse Before It Gets Better'

Former Undercover Agent Reveals Most Dangerous Biker Gangs in U.S.
As seen on Hannity

Police arrested about 170 members of rival motorcycle gangs after a shootout at a Texas restaurant killed nine people and wounded 18 over the weekend.

Five biker gangs gathered at the Twin Peaks restaurant in Waco to settle differences over turf and recruitment.

Waco Police Sgt. W. Patrick Swanton explained that meetings had been held at the restaurant previously. He said that the restaurant's managers dismissed police concerns over the gatherings being held.

The Associated Press reported:

"They were not here to drink and eat barbecue," Swanton said. "They came here with violence in mind."

Twin Peaks — a national chain that features waitresses in revealing uniforms — on Monday revoked the franchise rights to the restaurant, which opened in August.

Company spokesman Rick Van Warner said in a statement that the management team chose to ignore warnings and advice from the company, and did not establish the "high security standards" that the company requires.

The Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission on Monday issued a seven-day suspension of the restaurant's liquor license, but owners had the option of reopening to serve meals.

Police and the restaurant operators were aware of Sunday's meeting in advance, and 18 Waco officers in addition to state troopers were outside the restaurant when the fight began, Swanton said.

Swanton has repeatedly declined to identify which gangs were involved in a fight that began with punches then grew to include chains, knives and then guns.

On "Hannity" tonight, Charles Falco, a former undercover agent who was in several biker gangs, said that he wasn't surprised by the huge amount of weapons that police confiscated from the gang members.

"What happens in any states where they're allowed to have concealed weapons permits, the leadership of these gangs orders them to get a concealed weapons permit," Falco told Hannity.

He said that the three most dangerous biker gangs currently in America are the Outlaws, Hell's Angels and the Mongols. Falco also revealed that the problem of biker gangs is getting worse.

"Their numbers are higher, their level of violence it seems to go back and forth depending on the decade," Falco said. "It's getting bad again. They really fight over territory, and this battle was not over a parking spot. It was over territory."


My observations;
Like Judge Andrew Napolitano, I'm guessing that this is going to get much worse, WAY before it gets any better; and I'm very doubtful that there are any municipal police departments in the U.S. that have the manpower and the "equipment" to properly handle this problem without putting law enforcement personnel at grave risk. I'm further thinking that this problem is going to require the participation of elements of our military in order to "handle" it without getting a bunch of people killed.

The people who join biker gangs, IMO, are the scum of humanity, they are common criminals, and need to be dealt with as such.

Quote; "Police arrested about 170 members of rival motorcycle gangs after a shootout at a Texas restaurant killed nine people and wounded 18 over the weekend".

Here's my question; 18 bikers were "wounded"; does anyone have any idea of how much a gunshot wound could cost for treatment at a hospital ER? I have never suffered a gunshot wound, but I DID have to go to an ER for treatment because I had something in my eye; after speaking with and being "looked at" by no less that 6 RNs and 2 MDs, one of the doctors finally removed 1 eyelash from my eye; Medicare was billed $2,400; I'm guessing that the average gunshot wound would probably be closer to $24,000; does anyone think members of biker gangs carry health insurance? if you do, please contact me......I have a "great deal" on a large bridge up in Brooklyn that you'll surely be interested in....

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May 22, 2015 16:28:23   #
Robert Graybeal Loc: Myrtle Beach
 
You know very little about biker gangs. Yes, there are the 1%ers and there are 'bad apples' just like any grouping of people you can come up with.

The FBI has estimated that the biker community is about 80% doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers and self employed business men. I would guess that most have health insurance.

I live in Myrtle Beach. Last week was Spring Bike Week.
There were about half a million harley riders in town. Added millions of dollars to the economy, caused no trouble.

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May 22, 2015 16:34:35   #
HEART Loc: God's Country - COLORADO
 
Robert Graybeal wrote:
You know very little about biker gangs. Yes, there are the 1%ers and there are 'bad apples' just like any grouping of people you can come up with.

The FBI has estimated that the biker community is about 80% doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers and self employed business men. I would guess that most have health insurance.

I live in Myrtle Beach. Last week was Spring Bike Week.
There were about half a million harley riders in town. Added millions of dollars to the economy, caused no trouble.
You know very little about biker gangs. Yes, ther... (show quote)




Before talking, might want to review some stats from the DOJ on biker gangs. Click on any of the gangs.

http://www.justice.gov/criminal/ocgs/gangs/motorcycle.html

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May 22, 2015 17:03:56   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Robert Graybeal wrote:
You know very little about biker gangs. Yes, there are the 1%ers and there are 'bad apples' just like any grouping of people you can come up with.

The FBI has estimated that the biker community is about 80% doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers and self employed business men. I would guess that most have health insurance.

I live in Myrtle Beach. Last week was Spring Bike Week.
There were about half a million harley riders in town. Added millions of dollars to the economy, caused no trouble.
You know very little about biker gangs. Yes, ther... (show quote)


It is that other 20% that we need to worry about, the 80% provide them a forest to hide in.

Maybe the 80% need to get over their internal macho image the gang membership feeds them and leave to form groups of their own without the 20%. They also should change their dress style and the way they outfit their bikes so people can tell them apart. I rode for several years (bike under tarp on patio), I never joined a gang/club, bike has touring gear, stereo, had a CB etc. I never wore anything that even looked like "colors", gray levis, khaki shirts, light gray jacket (bike is black and gold with brushed silver/gray metal work) and a heavy duty "classic" style helmet with full flip up high impact face shield.

I often played classical on the freeway, turned way up. People would sometimes cruise next to me and roll down their windows to double check what they were hearing. Native american flutes and old 50's country/bluegrass when parked for lunch etc. on my long rides through the San Gabriel Mtns. One favorite turn out had about 3 or so springs flowing down the rocks/small cliffs and the flutes went real nice with the water sounds. Nice shade from several really big pine trees too.

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May 22, 2015 22:35:48   #
larrywilk Loc: Palm Harbor, FL
 
Robert Graybeal wrote:
You know very little about biker gangs. Yes, there are the 1%ers and there are 'bad apples' just like any grouping of people you can come up with.

The FBI has estimated that the biker community is about 80% doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers and self employed business men. I would guess that most have health insurance.

I live in Myrtle Beach. Last week was Spring Bike Week.
There were about half a million harley riders in town. Added millions of dollars to the economy, caused no trouble.
You know very little about biker gangs. Yes, ther... (show quote)


I ran a biker bar for a few years. Many of the free riders (no affiliations) were professional people and I struck up some great friendships. As you point out there are the 1%...but that percentage probably holds true with politicians, police, doctors and so on. Any category will have a few who feel above or ignore the law. In fact it appears to be a much higher percentage of politicians. :lol: :lol:

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May 23, 2015 08:39:48   #
Robert Graybeal Loc: Myrtle Beach
 
larrywilk wrote:
I ran a biker bar for a few years. Many of the free riders (no affiliations) were professional people and I struck up some great friendships. As you point out there are the 1%...but that percentage probably holds true with politicians, police, doctors and so on. Any category will have a few who feel above or ignore the law. In fact it appears to be a much higher percentage of politicians. :lol: :lol:


Yeah, it's about 99% in Washington DC.

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May 23, 2015 09:34:53   #
Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.
 
I think there's a big difference between biker clubs and outlaw biker gangs. There is in the UK.

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May 24, 2015 13:13:09   #
Gitzo Loc: Indiana
 
Robert Graybeal wrote:
You know very little about biker gangs. Yes, there are the 1%ers and there are 'bad apples' just like any grouping of people you can come up with.

The FBI has estimated that the biker community is about 80% doctors, lawyers, accountants, engineers and self employed business men. I would guess that most have health insurance.

I live in Myrtle Beach. Last week was Spring Bike Week.
There were about half a million harley riders in town. Added millions of dollars to the economy, caused no trouble.
You know very little about biker gangs. Yes, ther... (show quote)



Robert; You and I are not talking about the same thing at all. You're talking about ordinary people who happen to enjoy riding motorcycles; that's NOT what I'm talking about!

And you are very wrong when you say that "I know very little about biker gangs"; actually, I happen to know quite a bit about them; I rode a MC myself from 1955, (when I got out of the Navy ), for about the next 20 years. I spent years and years going to flat-track races, road races, and later on, even moto-cross races; I have seen first hand what happens when the criminal thugs such as "the Outlaws", "the Mongols", and all of the rest of the criminal element no-goodniks come to these events to start fights, steal anything they can lift, and generally give anyone else who rides motorcycles a bad name. Back then, being able to buy motorcycle insurance was almost unheard of, as almost no big insurance company would even dream of selling MC insurance; fortunately, that has all changed completely nowadays.

Even though I haven't ridden a MC in the last 20 or 30 years now, I still know a bunch of people who go to Sturgis, S.D. every year, where about half of all the MCs in the whole country show up, year after year after year.

BTW.......while we're on the subject, are you aware that when this big shoot-out in Austin, Texas took place recently, that most of the people who were riding Motorcycles there belonged to a Christian group of riders and another group who were all U.S. Marines before they had been discharged from the service? None of these people were involved in the shooting and violence I might add, but when something like this happens, guess who always gets blamed for everything? Anyone within miles and miles who is on a motorcycle.

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May 26, 2015 02:10:10   #
Gitzo Loc: Indiana
 
Wellhiem wrote:
I think there's a big difference between biker clubs and outlaw biker gangs. There is in the UK.



There is in the U.S. too.......a HELL of a big difference!

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May 26, 2015 02:31:45   #
bvm Loc: Glendale, Arizona
 
I think we should ask them nicely if they'd like to go to Boston, Detroit, NYC, Baltimore, Ghicago, San Fransisco, L.A., Seattle, andd of course Washinton D.C.
and of course Reading Pa.

I'm sure with all the dumb bunnies there, they'd have easy pickings

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May 26, 2015 05:43:21   #
larrywilk Loc: Palm Harbor, FL
 
Gitzo wrote:
There is in the U.S. too.......a HELL of a big difference!


I heard Obama is asking them to soften their ensemble.

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May 26, 2015 05:47:43   #
magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
larrywilk wrote:
I heard Obama is asking them to soften their ensemble.
lol

Reward: One kilo of meth and an acre of the Sahara for each ISIS scalp.

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